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Behringer microAMP HA400
ramo_and
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:06 am reply with quote
Hi,

I've been thinking about getting a real cheap monitor control for my home studio. I have a pair of ADAM A7X, a pair of computer speakers and a pair of AKG K601.

I've been looking at Presonus monitor station, Mackie big knob etc... But they're a bit to expensive for me. So today I came across this little thing:

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/HA400.aspx

Have anyone tried this one? Will it color the sound much?

I know it's a headphone amp but I think it might work...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:00 am reply with quote
Not the right thing at all, IMO.

Preferable : http://www.thomann.de/gb/sm_pro_audio_nano_patch.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:01 am reply with quote
whyterabbyt wrote:
Not the right thing at all, IMO.

Preferable : http://www.thomann.de/gb/sm_pro_audio_nano_patch.htm
+1. Or actually: http://www.smproaudio.com/index.php/en/products/monitor-cont rollers/m-patch-2
The simple NanoPatch doesn't have a switch for two outputs.

Don't use a headphone amp for anything else than headphones. Just don't. That NanoPatch will probably do what you want.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:01 am reply with quote
Maybe not, but I can use it for my headphones, my computer speakers and maybe an extra pair of headhphones, right?? Should work fine? My Adams can go directly from my soundcard.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:04 am reply with quote
ramo_and wrote:
Maybe not, but I can use it for my headphones, my computer speakers and maybe an extra pair of headhphones, right?? Should work fine? My Adams can go directly from my soundcard.
Yes. But how will you adjust the volume on the Adams?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:07 am reply with quote
I have a presonus firestudio mobile with one knob for main out and one for headphones. In the headphones output i can plug in this behringer headphone amp to be able to adjust the volume of computer speakers and headphones.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:16 am reply with quote
Again, the SM Pro Audio M-Patch 2 is just slightly more expensive than the Behringer HA400, but 1000% more suited to the task you want it to perform.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:05 am reply with quote
The M-patch costs 5 times more, so it's not slightly more expensive Wink. I just want a want a way to control my headphones and computer speakers and I think this one will do the job. I am not using it for my ADAMs... I have a seperate knob for them on my Presonus Firestudio Mobile.

EDIT: If i get the m-patch 2 I'll have to get a XLR to 3.5 mm converter and I haven't seen to many of those around..
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:06 am reply with quote
ramo_and wrote:
I have a presonus firestudio mobile with one knob for main out and one for headphones. In the headphones output i can plug in this behringer headphone amp to be able to adjust the volume of computer speakers and headphones.
Go for it then Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:03 am reply with quote
ramo_and wrote:
The M-patch costs 5 times more, so it's not slightly more expensive Wink.
Ehrmmm, yes. Whoops... Thought I read somewhere a price of €104 for the HA400, seems it's less than €20 indeed.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:33 am reply with quote
Hi again guys. I'm still considering this and now I've found this one:

http://www.stagebeat.com/Stage-Line-PPA-4-Stereo-Headphone-A mplifier-243770-101594

I know it's not the right thing really, but still it's about half price compared to the M-patch 2 and I seems like it will do the job since I just need to control the volume on my ADAM A7X, AKG K601, Iphone headphones and a pair of computer speakers.

Could there be any problems connecting the Adams to this? Will it damage the speakers or why shouldn't I do it?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:39 am reply with quote
ramo_and wrote:
Could there be any problems connecting the Adams to this? Will it damage the speakers or why shouldn't I do it?
Sure:
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Output 2 x 16mWRMS/8Ω,
2 x 35mWRMS/32Ω,
2 x 15mWRMS/600Ω
(per headphone)
The max. voltage that goes to the Adams is 10x too high, forcing you to limit yourself in the volume know range, leading to sub-optimal gfain staging. And:
Quote:
S/N ratio 64dB
THD 0.1%
That's pretty bad, really... Especially if you can't drive it too loud, the S/N ratio becomes something like 10dB worse. The Signal/Noise ratio should be something like 90dB, you're then 35 dB off. Since each 3dB is twice as loud, you have background hiss at 2^12 = 4096x the level it should be.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:42 am reply with quote
OK thanks for the info Smile Now I know.
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