Music without the right "artist" is dead
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itsDavidAbraham itsDavidAbraham https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=264907
- KVRist
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- 59 posts since 17 Sep, 2011
Take your best production, put a talented local singer on it. It goes nowhere,
put Rihanna on it, Same lyrics same melodies.
It goes everywhere and you're rich.
put Rihanna on it, Same lyrics same melodies.
It goes everywhere and you're rich.
David Abraham
Are You Doing What You Love?
Are You Doing What You Love?
- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Yep. The only way to make a decent amount of money... is to have a decent amount of money
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- KVRist
- 353 posts since 22 Feb, 2004
You're probably trying to reach out to a demographic which is more interested in celebrity worship rather than actual music, making it a hopeless endeavor from the start. Those types of consumers will never care about whatever music is attached to the brand they're buying.
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- KVRian
- 1391 posts since 28 May, 2008 from Saint Paul, MN
Yep, and THEY are the majority. Original music, as art, is moving more and more into an avant-garde form. Everthing else is grist for the entertainment mill or background noise to be ignored. Perhaps, music was always destined to return to a local endeveor of entertainment and self-expression. Nothing wrong with that.GeckoYamori wrote:You're probably trying to reach out to a demographic which is more interested in celebrity worship rather than actual music, making it a hopeless endeavor from the start. Those types of consumers will never care about whatever music is attached to the brand they're buying.
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- Banned
- 2033 posts since 19 Jun, 2011 from a world of Black Thunder chocs
I'm pretty sure you're being tongue in cheek, but if not then I call bollocks.itsDavidAbraham wrote:Take your best production, put a talented local singer on it. It goes nowhere,
put Rihanna on it, Same lyrics same melodies.
It goes everywhere and you're rich.
Music isn't dead just 'cos Simon Cowell said so.
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itsDavidAbraham itsDavidAbraham https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=264907
- KVRist
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- 59 posts since 17 Sep, 2011
Kinda....the consumer is now relying on brands to endorse the music..no endorsement...no hit.GeckoYamori wrote:You're probably trying to reach out to a demographic which is more interested in celebrity worship rather than actual music, making it a hopeless endeavor from the start. Those types of consumers will never care about whatever music is attached to the brand they're buying.
And they endorse it by being the "vocalist". Today singers are really spokesmodels for the songs.
David Abraham
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33256 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
so how is this different from the rest of the history of popular music?
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- KVRian
- 1391 posts since 28 May, 2008 from Saint Paul, MN
Simon Cowell is the one who KILLED it!Doug1978 wrote:Music isn't dead just 'cos Simon Cowell said so.
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- KVRian
- 1391 posts since 28 May, 2008 from Saint Paul, MN
It's different because of the ubiquity of, and easy access to, all music, as well as the sheer volume being produced and distributed daily. That's influencing consumer behavior in new ways. Yeah, the story may seem similar but I think we are certainly in a new era where being successful is more closely linked to a personal brand that is more concerned with performance and image than original expression (as an art form). Many of the classic bands would not have a shot today because they relied only on a committed fan base and creating "good music". Today's fans are FAR more fickle and a lot less loyal than ever before. That's what I'm seeing anyway.whyterabbyt wrote:so how is this different from the rest of the history of popular music?
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- KVRAF
- 11108 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Precisely! "Popular" by nature is 'trendy', and "trendy" by nature is fickle.whyterabbyt wrote:so how is this different from the rest of the history of popular music?
Adapt, improvise, innovate, or get used to it being beyond your particular 'reach' (if not interest), and withdraw from the 'machine' all together.
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- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
That's a machine I never had interest in. Respect of peers and a small income would be sufficient.
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itsDavidAbraham itsDavidAbraham https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=264907
- KVRist
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- 59 posts since 17 Sep, 2011
Difference wasn't suggestedwhyterabbyt wrote:so how is this different from the rest of the history of popular music?
But newer generations are not born with knowledge of the truth.
David Abraham
Are You Doing What You Love?
Are You Doing What You Love?
- KVRAF
- 10322 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Why not just spend less time in the studio, and spend more time working on your appearance and image, and you'll be rich and famous with almost no effort. Seems like a no-brainer to me.itsDavidAbraham wrote:Take your best production, put a talented local singer on it. It goes nowhere,
put Rihanna on it, Same lyrics same melodies.
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- KVRian
- 1391 posts since 28 May, 2008 from Saint Paul, MN
Fair enough, but it IS different by virtue of the variables (new technology) changing. I don't know how you can claim that popular music is as it always was when we now have music downloads, sample libraries and auto-tune. Today, so-called "real" band music is easily (and indistinguishably) replaced by something manufactured by a single person in a bedroom with the above tools readily (and mostly, freely) available. That, to me, is the game changer and its effects on what we are calling "popular music" are evident.Shabdahbriah wrote:Precisely! "Popular" by nature is 'trendy', and "trendy" by nature is fickle.whyterabbyt wrote:so how is this different from the rest of the history of popular music?