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I'm getting close to finishing the orchestral bank, finally!!
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Esgalachoir
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:28 pm reply with quote
olepro wrote:
Not to say anything bad about Esgalachoir's sounds for Zebra, but this is also alot about his exellent composing and use of the sounds.
The best sounds can easely sound bad if they are used the "wrong" way.
Iv'e heard musicians whith the exellent Yamaha Tyros make it sound like an old Casio !
It could be interesting to listen to some of the sounds played in isolation.

Really good job on the composing (and sounds) Esgalachoir Cool

By the way, if anybody like classical music played by old analog synths then have a listen to Isao Tomita.
Just two exsamples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRAh_hpc_4o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEz9VpUoXyA&feature=related


This is true, you can make bad music with my patches too, I've already done it... HiHi

And yes, with a trained and discerning ear, you will be able to tell that my sounds are synthesized.
This bank, as it stands now, is far from perfect. I've got my work cut out for me this month.

I'll have to take a listen Tomita when I have more energy to spare, I'm exhausted right now.

And thanks, olepro. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:49 am reply with quote
Not meant as a critique on Tomita (whom I know since he played in Far East Band) but nothing compares to the real instruments. No photograph or painting can ever replace a sunset.

But is that a problem? Does it make the photograph/painting less good? Of course not! It does not mean to replace a sunset but to add something to our human desire for art and beauty.
Same with old-school photographs and digital ones. Both have their adepts, missionaries and acolytes.

From my personal point of view Zebra is in the first place *the* synthesizer to synthesize sounds. Some of these can be very "far out" and some can be close to sounds we know, even to instruments we know. But does it have to be a perfect emulation? No, I don't think so. I don't think it is possible to play, say, a violin on a synth. Because a real player on a real instrument will lay his "soul" in every note they play. There's the interaction of the strings with the wood, of the resin on the bow with the strings. A real life player can use every little effect in real time. And these go far beyond pizzicato, soft, mellow, hard or harsh.

So if this orchestral bank is not "perfect", I don't mind. No vinyl, no SDHC or whatever has ever come close to a real-life performance, but that won't stop me from playing the music I like on cd, and even to listen to mp3 in the car.

So don't worry about perfection Esgalachoir as no human will ever attain it. Go your way, do what you want and relax. Creativity is hindered by stress, and by ego.

You could, eventually, always make your orchestral set available in due time, and add updates for registered users later on.

My idea.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:47 pm reply with quote
ErikH wrote:
I don't think it is possible to play, say, a violin on a synth. Because a real player on a real instrument will lay his "soul" in every note they play.


A synthesizer is a real instrument, and there are real synthesizer players who will lay their "souls" in every note they play, too. Not commenting on emulating existing acoustic instruments here, just a general observation.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:54 pm reply with quote
Any news?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:54 am reply with quote
I am so incredible impressed
and yes, the Kelvin labyrinthe is amazing as well. I had no idea that a synth could sound this real .. composition is first class!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:37 pm reply with quote
That is pretty amazing. Sounds real enough to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:26 am reply with quote
zouki wrote:
Any news?

Wink

Zouki


But???...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:12 am reply with quote
zouki wrote:
zouki wrote:
Any news?

Wink

Zouki


But???...


Sorry to keep you hanging! I've been away lately so I didn't see this right away.
I've been super busy lately with several projects, but it hasn't kept me from working on the bank, fortunately. I'm at around 80 some patches that can be called complete, but I'm still not quite happy with the string section and woodwinds yet.
Also, I've got another completed demo track for it sitting around here which was originally meant for a short film, but that project had to be transformed due to an unfortunate event, so the music had to change, which left me with an unused finished piece.

So far the bank, as it stands in it's current form: 10 brass patches, 7 string patches, 5 woodwinds, 9 keys, 22 percussion, 26 soundscapes, and 4 sequences.

Also, I don't have a count for the "scrap" patches, but I imagine that will be somewhat high...

As you can see, a couple types out-number some other types of patches...HiHi
Not really sure I'm comfortable with that after what I advertised this bank to be...Embarassed

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Esgalachoir
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:18 am reply with quote
Crackbaby wrote:
I am so incredible impressed
and yes, the Kelvin labyrinthe is amazing as well. I had no idea that a synth could sound this real .. composition is first class!!!


timaeus222 wrote:
That is pretty amazing. Sounds real enough to me.


Thanks a lot for listening, guys! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:45 am reply with quote
Honestly If all this is true, Urs should contact Mr Zimmer and let him know about you...
You are a genius Shocked

I am officialy jealous
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:20 am reply with quote
Thanks Esgalachoir! We are all waiting patiently... almost! As for X-mas...

*<|;-}

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:14 am reply with quote
Esgalachoir wrote:
Also, I've got another completed demo track for it sitting around here which was originally meant for a short film, but that project had to be transformed due to an unfortunate event, so the music had to change, which left me with an unused finished piece.

- Corin


Ah, I can help you with that: PLEASE POST IT!!! Very Happy Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:39 am reply with quote
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:05 am reply with quote
Totolitoto wrote:
Honestly If all this is true, Urs should contact Mr Zimmer and let him know about you...
You are a genius Shocked

I am officialy jealous


Hah! Nonsense, what does he need me for? He's got Howard and REAL orchestras!(Something I'd like to have access to someday)
Genius? I dunno about that...I've said it before and I'll say it again, I prefer to call myself dangerously obsessed with realism...HiHi
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:08 am reply with quote
zouki wrote:
Thanks Esgalachoir! We are all waiting patiently... almost! As for X-mas...

*<|;-}

Zouki


Smile Wink

Fritze wrote:
Ah, I can help you with that: PLEASE POST IT!!!


Hopefully I can throw it up there by tonight.
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