I want a workhorse synthesizer like Korg Triton
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 25 posts since 6 Dec, 2012 from Finland
I've always been a huge fan of Korg hardware synthesizers like Triton and Trinity and I thought Korg might already have ported them over into VSTi's, but apparently not. I've tried out some synths along the way like everything in NI:s Komplete, but there's not enough usable stuff there. It's like 10000 sounds with 10 usable ones. I dont't like tweaking, I want a usable good library with no nonsense.
Now, there are sample libraries, like these on eBay, for Kontakt and Reason, but 1) I'm concerned about how legal they are and 2) I only get samples, not the real synthesizing process.
This brings me to synths like Alchemy and Omnisphere. Listening to Youtube demos and demos on their website, they feel like they could be what I want. The free lite version of Alchemy for instance is pretty close. But the problem with both is the huge sample library. No version of Korg Triton has a capacity to host a 12 - 40 gigs worth of samples, I don't believe that.
This all leaves me wondering. Does what I want and need exist? How do I find what I'm looking for? I don't undestand terms such as FM, granular, analog, etc, since they have no reference to me. I'm not a keyboardist, I'm rather a musician/drummer/bedroom-studio-producer who likes good synth sounds.
Now, there are sample libraries, like these on eBay, for Kontakt and Reason, but 1) I'm concerned about how legal they are and 2) I only get samples, not the real synthesizing process.
This brings me to synths like Alchemy and Omnisphere. Listening to Youtube demos and demos on their website, they feel like they could be what I want. The free lite version of Alchemy for instance is pretty close. But the problem with both is the huge sample library. No version of Korg Triton has a capacity to host a 12 - 40 gigs worth of samples, I don't believe that.
This all leaves me wondering. Does what I want and need exist? How do I find what I'm looking for? I don't undestand terms such as FM, granular, analog, etc, since they have no reference to me. I'm not a keyboardist, I'm rather a musician/drummer/bedroom-studio-producer who likes good synth sounds.
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- KVRAF
- 1588 posts since 24 Feb, 2004
If you want usable and ease of use, go for Alchemy over Omni - the one page GUI and selectable soundlibraries make it more of an all-rounder, IMO.Triskal wrote: I dont't like tweaking, I want a usable good library with no nonsense.
This brings me to synths like Alchemy and Omnisphere. Listening to Youtube demos and demos on their website, they feel like they could be what I want. The free lite version of Alchemy for instance is pretty close. But the problem with both is the huge sample library.
If you insist on usable but under a bizarre gigbyte limit...well, good luck.
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
If he likes Korg so why not try the M1 and the Wavestation plugin plugin first...
Both are delivered with tons of factory sounds and the M1 includeds all available expansion cards.
Both are delivered with tons of factory sounds and the M1 includeds all available expansion cards.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 25 posts since 6 Dec, 2012 from Finland
It's not that I insist on it. I just find it odd that there is no such thing as a VST synth that does what the Korg hardware workstations do without a huge sample library.re_mute wrote:If you insist on usable but under a bizarre gigbyte limit...well, good luck.
I came to think of it just after I posted my original post. I found some youtube demos and it all sounds very promising. Especially if I buy a microKEYS 61 from Thomann I get the plugins bundled with it for less than if I buy them separately from the webshop Korg links to. They are just M1 and Wavestation, though. Triton would be teh win.Ingonator wrote:If he likes Korg so why not try the M1 and the Wavestation plugin plugin first...
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- Banned
- 2033 posts since 19 Jun, 2011 from a world of Black Thunder chocs
Hi Triskal
To be honest, it sounds like you already have some excellent choices there, as recommended by the other KVR members.
I'd also suggest having a look at Zebra by u-he, as it is a very versatile synth with excellent presets and a great sound.
http://www.u-he.com/cms/zebra
(Also it's u-he sister DIVA is arguably the best 'analogue hardware sounding' softsynth on the market currently).
Cheers
To be honest, it sounds like you already have some excellent choices there, as recommended by the other KVR members.
I'd also suggest having a look at Zebra by u-he, as it is a very versatile synth with excellent presets and a great sound.
http://www.u-he.com/cms/zebra
(Also it's u-he sister DIVA is arguably the best 'analogue hardware sounding' softsynth on the market currently).
Cheers
- KVRAF
- 11093 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
The thing that, IMO, comes closer to Trident and Triton in concept and usability sounds (from THAT point of view) should be HALion Sonic, by Steinberg.
Fernando (FMR)
- KVRian
- 652 posts since 28 Dec, 2011 from Seattle,WA, USA
I used to have a Trinity rack the closest thing I have ever heard to it in software is Purity. Check it out you might really like it.
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- KVRian
- 906 posts since 2 May, 2005
+1 for HALion Sonic or HALion 4. these are the closest things to a ROMpler like the ones from Yamaha, Roland or KORG. however, then you still have to deal with a library of around 15 gb. in fact the development of HALion Sonic included developers which were also responsible for the Yamaha Motif series. oh, and both HALion Sonic and HALion 4 include a very capable and good soundung VA engine.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 25 posts since 6 Dec, 2012 from Finland
Thank you for teaching me a new word. I didn't know it was a rompler I'm looking for.Gosh wrote:these are the closest things to a ROMpler like the ones from Yamaha, Roland or KORG.
EDIT: U-he has Zebralette. I'll give it a try. Also found Proteus VX. I'll try that too.
EDIT2: Halion Sonic sounds more inspiring that Halion, quite surprisingly.
Thank you for recommendation, everybody. They are all highly appreciated.
- Beware the Quoth
- 33177 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Yes, but workstations have smaller libraries because the storage media they rely on is expensive. Hard drive space space is much cheaper. So why does it make a difference to you? 40Gb isn't even a quarter of the space of the smallest mechanical hard drives you can actually find any more. It'd fit on a $100 SSD, with spare space.Triskal wrote:But the problem with both is the huge sample library. No version of Korg Triton has a capacity to host a 12 - 40 gigs worth of samples, I don't believe that.
Yes, workstations did a lot with smaller sample sets. I have no idea why people think that means larger sample sets are an inherent issue to be avoided.
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRAF
- 2273 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
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- KVRist
- 185 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Edinburgh, UK
I was actually considering selling my fully loaded Korg Triton ProX 88-key (MOSS Board, maxed-out RAM etc.) because I'm in the market for a portable digital piano (the Triton is a heavy beast) - currently located in the UK.
Send me a PM me if you're interested.
However, the above mentioned VSTi will do the trick as well.
Send me a PM me if you're interested.
However, the above mentioned VSTi will do the trick as well.
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- KVRAF
- 4420 posts since 7 Nov, 2005 from Florida
As a long-time Korg fan (hence my name - Korg Karma), I love workstation romplers.
The one you need to look at is Wusikstation. It IS a rompler in the vein of the Korg Wavestation and above romplers.
It has a nice library and plenty of 3rd party support.
If you want a well-rounded workstation that uses the Wusik engine, take a look at PRIZM (www.supersynths.com) - it has a large library of sounds and can be used much like a Korg Triton, Karma, etc.
Mike
The one you need to look at is Wusikstation. It IS a rompler in the vein of the Korg Wavestation and above romplers.
It has a nice library and plenty of 3rd party support.
If you want a well-rounded workstation that uses the Wusik engine, take a look at PRIZM (www.supersynths.com) - it has a large library of sounds and can be used much like a Korg Triton, Karma, etc.
Mike
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
+1 for WusikStationKarmacomposer wrote:The one you need to look at is Wusikstation. It IS a rompler in the vein of the Korg Wavestation and above romplers.
But I'm thinking, why not get yourself a Korg Krome, which cost no more than 1000 bucks from Sweetwater now
$1000 may sound much, but it is self contained workstation, so you don't really need a computer to use it.
If you want to get Komplete or Omnisphere, you need to also have a decent PC to run the plugs plus a midi keyboard interface, which in the end will cost just a much put together if not more.
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- KVRist
- 308 posts since 19 Feb, 2011
yeah +1 for wusikstation just got V6 not too long ago for a really good deal still going on and really like the HGF free sounds makes me wanna get the full set, but i've spent too much already black friday.