Only on the summing bus, since this is the sum of all signals. I allow myself that particular headroom just for savety purposes.

Of course you can go the oldschool way: 0VU and -9dBFS digital peak maximum. Everything is possible as long as you don't overdo it.





I don't have Cubase 7 yet, still on 6. But go away from thinking that both the RMS level and the peak level needs to be hot all the time.

The 0 VU or -9dBFS digital limits are just guidelines. And in outboard gear days, the usual definite upper end.

You can always pull up the loudness if you want, but while mixing and recording, stay within the limits. This gives you a better fader resolution, analog type plugins respond better, you can easier integrate actual hardware, and you have a more healthy headroom prior to giving your track away for mastering.


Also... if you're not experienced with hot signal levels while recording, you're save of clipping. And someone mentioned "crap ADC/DAC's" - yes, you also benefit from using a reference level, since certain ADC/DAC already start to clip at lower levels than 0dBFS.

ok

but



thise -6dB or -9 dB

how do they relate to the master plugin ?
as izotope ozone 5 ?

or better..

how do they relate to a song that has yet to be sent to a online master engineer for mastering?

Thanks for the reply. I feel I am getting closer , just more practice.....

Two references to read:

Short version: http://www.massivemastering.com/blog/index_files/Proper_Audi o_Recording_Levels.php


Long version: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/4 63010-reason-most-itb-mixes-don-t-sound-good-analog-mixes-re stored.html

OK, so I just read this:

"How your host should be used with emulation plugins (based on Slate VCC)"


I have to say, thanks. You've really done a great job detailing this out. I really appreciate the time and work you put into sharing this knowledge

Seriously, STOP FOCUSING on Ozone.
We only talk about the plain features of your host, no special plugins whatsoever other than VCC maybe.




Simple:
-9dBFS per channel, -6dBFS for the summing bus. It's a personal preference.

The average loudness while recording/mixing should not(!) exceed -18dBFS (RMS) or 0 VU (with a reference level of -18dBFS).



I hope I made myself clear enough this time around.

You guys should stop aiding and abetting the OP in his quest to waste bits; He needs to learn how to use every single bit that is available !!



use every Damm bit!!


.

+1

Agreed. We paid for them, we use them all! And the greater travesty is that these bit squandering wanton byte spenders are wasting the MOST significant bits. And then they call it: 'Art'. WTF?

Oh well, someday in the distant future, they'll make DAWs with 32bit floating point math and then we'll get our revenge on these red-adverse weak-level weenies.

Oh and BTW, digital makes the best square waves! Analog square waves are way too round.

thanx

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Last edited by Giusmex on Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:38 am; edited 1 time in total

ok compyfox, nopw in my song i am using all of your suggestions


this includes:

proper use of VU meter in slate digital vcc
proper use of gain staging



sill it is difficult to me to fine tuning the volume levels of the several tracks in my song taking into account all of these parameters, but i guess it is only a matter of experience