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Side-chaining effect returns in Zebra

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Aiynzahev
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Postby Aiynzahev; Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:45 pm Side-chaining effect returns in Zebra

Hi U-he and team

Could you please tell me if it's possible to "duck" the reverb return signal?

So far I figured you can put a filter after the reverb and use the envelope to trigger the ducking.

Is there a way to do this with just pure gain reduction?

A full reading of the manual will commence, this would just help me know where to start. Thanks!

Sami
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Postby CandeFan; Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:08 pm

You can place the reverb in fxbuss and modulate return in mod matrix.
Send can be modulated with ... below, but that's not ducking?:oops:
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Postby Aiynzahev; Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:34 pm

No it's not, because you can't suddenly drop the reverb tail's gain.
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Postby CandeFan; Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:41 pm

But modulate return is...
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Postby Aiynzahev; Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:44 pm

Oh sorry I didn't read your post correctly. Let me have a look!
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Postby Aiynzahev; Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:45 pm

Your right of course, there it is! awesome stuff. Very happy now :) Thanks.
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Postby CandeFan; Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:51 pm

welcome :D
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Postby pdxindy; Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:16 pm

You can also use Zebrify which has an envelop follower for some interesting effects
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Postby 3ee; Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:39 pm

I do it simply by placing the reverb unit on a separate output lane (send) and as that has it's own modulation slot, I use that to duck, mainly with envelopes... (they act as monophonic as I remember, not a problem tho)
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Postby Aiynzahev; Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:44 pm

3ee wrote:I do it simply by placing the reverb unit on a separate output lane (send) and as that has it's own modulation slot, I use that to duck, mainly with envelopes... (they act as monophonic as I remember, not a problem tho)


Yes sends can be modified, but it's not the drastic sucking back that mod' the return gives. Too many wrong ideas in this post. lol
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Postby Aiynzahev; Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:44 pm

pdxindy wrote:You can also use Zebrify which has an envelop follower for some interesting effects


This is all strictly in Zebra2. Any tips that stay inside Zebra I'm all ears!
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Postby Aiynzahev; Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:46 pm

I think I got thrown off because I didn't realise how it worked, you have the front page which has so much going that I guess I thought that if it wasn't there you couldn't do it. The mod matrix is for all that "other" stuff "for the weirdos" hehe
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Postby 3ee; Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:53 pm

Aiynzahev wrote:
3ee wrote:I do it simply by placing the reverb unit on a separate output lane (send) and as that has it's own modulation slot, I use that to duck, mainly with envelopes... (they act as monophonic as I remember, not a problem tho)


Yes sends can be modified, but it's not the drastic sucking back that mod' the return gives. Too many wrong ideas in this post. lol


Well, it depends what type of ducking you're after...

for technical reasons or artistic.

For technical I was referring basically to this:
https://www.box.com/s/5y6d318hvvi6m5pipctj

for ducking you will have positive amounts of send and negative amounts of modulation. (reverb dry parameter usually to minimum)
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Postby CandeFan; Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:13 am

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Postby CandeFan; Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:43 am

Off topic:
If I don't zip my h2p file it opens in text editor :shock: Any solutions :help:
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