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Phoenix and the others./ Search for the most Natural reverb

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KVRian
 
1437 posts since 28 Jul, 2003

Postby Ben H; Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:37 pm

I would buy Phoenix in a heartbeat if it wasn't iLoked. :(

I'm not anti-dongle... but unfortunately I do a lot of live gigging with a laptop, which makes this unfeasible.
My main tools: Alchemy, Iris, Kontakt, Omnisphere, Padshop Pro, SWAM and WIVI.
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KVRist
 
413 posts since 6 Nov, 2011, from The Netherlands

Postby solidtrax; Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:12 am

Ben H wrote:I would buy Phoenix in a heartbeat if it wasn't iLoked. :(

I'm not anti-dongle... but unfortunately I do a lot of live gigging with a laptop, which makes this unfeasible.


If you like Phoenixverb, you probably like the upcoming Acon Digital Verberate plugin that is going to be released pretty soon.

I can't think of a more clean/natural sounding reverb than these two mentioned. And for the iLok haters, it's a good thing Acon Digital doesn't use iLok protection.
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KVRian
 
1437 posts since 28 Jul, 2003

Postby Ben H; Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:14 am

solidtrax wrote:If you like Phoenixverb, you probably like the upcoming Acon Digital Verberate plugin that is going to be released pretty soon.

I can't think of a more clean/natural sounding reverb than these two mentioned. And for the iLok haters, it's a good thing Acon Digital doesn't use iLok protection.


Thanks, I will take a look.

Like I said, I don't hate iLok... it's just impractical in a live-use situation.
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KVRist
 
142 posts since 18 Sep, 2012, from Salt Lake Valley

Postby Michael Carnes; Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:35 am

Hello. Didn't quite know where to put this, but this thread's as good as any. I put together a little tutorial on PhoenixVerb, and it's at this link: http://youtu.be/wM1GAgl60xU. Those of you who have some mileage probably won't need it, but perhaps it will be helpful to those who are just starting out.

Best to all,
Michael
Michael Carnes
Exponential Audio
www.ExponentialAudio.com
KVRAF
 
18803 posts since 4 Sep, 2001, from Melbourne Australia

Postby TheoM; Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:44 am

solidtrax wrote:
Ben H wrote:I would buy Phoenix in a heartbeat if it wasn't iLoked. :(

I'm not anti-dongle... but unfortunately I do a lot of live gigging with a laptop, which makes this unfeasible.


If you like Phoenixverb, you probably like the upcoming Acon Digital Verberate plugin that is going to be released pretty soon.

I can't think of a more clean/natural sounding reverb than these two mentioned. And for the iLok haters, it's a good thing Acon Digital doesn't use iLok protection.


I can't hear any similarity between those two. They are totally different reverbs. Both good in their own right though of course. The Acon is pretty much unlike anything else i heard so far to be honest, it's it's own thing, and i suspect will be either a love or hate situation as more users start to comment.

Recently there was an exponential sale that made the verbs pretty much must haves.. i had to pass as i am soaked in verb (pun totally intended) but for those NOT already ultra wet, i can only recommend them.. Well even to those who are.. ! They are very high quality products :) I actually can't imagine anyone buying them and being disappointed.. it's like they are simply not bad in any way. I am not saying the acon is, but it's different, and CAN sound bad. Exponential can't. :shrug:
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KVRist
 
142 posts since 18 Sep, 2012, from Salt Lake Valley

Postby Michael Carnes; Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:52 am

TheoM wrote:
solidtrax wrote:
Ben H wrote:Recently there was an exponential sale ...


There's one right now. Just sayin...
Michael Carnes
Exponential Audio
www.ExponentialAudio.com
KVRAF
 
18803 posts since 4 Sep, 2001, from Melbourne Australia

Postby TheoM; Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:59 am

Oh cool. :) Didn't know it was still going :)
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KVRist
 
209 posts since 8 Apr, 2012, from Vienna

Postby Arrested Developer; Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:05 am

Michael Carnes wrote:
There's one right now. Just sayin...



how long is this one lasting?
as much as i'd love to get the stereobundle (i.e. R2), my actual budget is overstretched...
KVRist
 
142 posts since 18 Sep, 2012, from Salt Lake Valley

Postby Michael Carnes; Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:07 am

Arrested Developer wrote:as much as i'd love to get the stereobundle (i.e. R2), my actual budget is overstretched...


Dec 21. Should be plenty of time to plan and evaluate.
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Exponential Audio
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KVRian
 
1437 posts since 28 Jul, 2003

Postby Ben H; Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:43 am

Ben H wrote:
solidtrax wrote:If you like Phoenixverb, you probably like the upcoming Acon Digital Verberate plugin that is going to be released pretty soon.

I can't think of a more clean/natural sounding reverb than these two mentioned. And for the iLok haters, it's a good thing Acon Digital doesn't use iLok protection.


Thanks, I will take a look.

Like I said, I don't hate iLok... It's just unpractical in a live-use situation.


I've had a long listen to the audio examples now, but have not actually tried the demo yet.

It sounds pretty good, but not like Phoenixverb.
My main tools: Alchemy, Iris, Kontakt, Omnisphere, Padshop Pro, SWAM and WIVI.
KVRer
 
5 posts since 24 Sep, 2013, from California

Postby Psalmist91; Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:06 pm

3 excellent inobtrusive, natural reverbs:

1. PhoenixVerb (Exponential Audio) as mentioned several times. Sweet, without being lush or heavy handed. So nice. Probably sounds amazing on simply everything. Plus the developer hangs out here and is available.

2. IrCam Verb Session (partnership with Flux). Possibly more "realistic" in some scenarios. Love it on solo strings, for example. Perhaps better at simulating real spaces. Great for orchestral purposes. Not as flexible perhaps as PV. Nice UI.

3. UAD OceanWayStudio. Wow. For a pair of "real" rooms. Can achieve some phenomenal results. Also miking options, and can blend mic distances. Really need to spend some time with before forming an opinion. Unique approach to what it does, and currently peerless at it.
KVRist
 
281 posts since 30 Apr, 2008, from St Louis, MO

Postby Kevin63101; Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:47 pm

Michael Carnes wrote:
Ben H wrote:Recently there was an exponential sale ...
There's one right now. Just sayin...

The sale is on until 12:00 AM GMT on December 21, 2013


Glad I saw this sale on Phoenix Verb. I have a respectible collection of reverbs (including Lexicon PCM), but the demo of Phoenix has a pristine clarity that's a cut above when it comes to transparency.

GUI is simple, wish preset management recall could be easier to scroll, but the sound is pure and clean JOY. Lots of great presets and easy to tweak. I suspect I'll be dialing in the smaller rooms for ambience quite often on this one. Fantastic on Acoustic Guitar and other acoustic instrument / orchestral samples.

Some wish for a white Christmas, I got a wet one in Phoenix. :hihi:
KVRian
 
1437 posts since 28 Jul, 2003

Postby Ben H; Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:03 pm

Hi Michael,

Now that it's possible to authorize licenses to your computer or iLok with Pace's new Eden system, will you be considering offering the option to authorize via computer as well as iLok?

Regards.
My main tools: Alchemy, Iris, Kontakt, Omnisphere, Padshop Pro, SWAM and WIVI.
KVRist
 
142 posts since 18 Sep, 2012, from Salt Lake Valley

Postby Michael Carnes; Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:00 am

Kevin63101 wrote:GUI is simple, wish preset management recall could be easier to scroll


Hi Kevin,
You should find that the arrow keys on your keyboard will help you with quick preview. Up/Down drive you through the keyword list and Left/Right drive through the presets in that keyword. Some DAWs don't pass the arrow keys directly, so you might find you need to user a modifier key like alt, command, or control. I'll happily take anything with an arrow in it. Just make sure the plugin window has focus.

Best,
Michael
Michael Carnes
Exponential Audio
www.ExponentialAudio.com
KVRist
 
142 posts since 18 Sep, 2012, from Salt Lake Valley

Postby Michael Carnes; Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:03 am

Ben H wrote:Now that it's possible to authorize licenses to your computer or iLok with Pace's new Eden system, will you be considering offering the option to authorize via computer as well as iLok?


Hi Ben,
This is a new capability from PACE. I'm not planning on supporting it any time soon, but I will re-evaluate after it's been out there a while.
Michael Carnes
Exponential Audio
www.ExponentialAudio.com
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