synths that can read other synth patches...
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 955 posts since 18 Apr, 2006
putting out some thoughts:
1. I know NI FM7 could read DX7 patches. It seems like a cool idea. What other synths that can read a different synth's patches?
2. I would think, while it wouldn't be easy, that some synths should try to import other patches. It obviously wouldn't be exact - but think of all the patches for the virus a,b,c and they're in .mid format or all the patches in massive format. I'm surprised someone doesn't make a synth or translator to load them into a 3rd party synth.
my thoughts of the day. what do you think?
1. I know NI FM7 could read DX7 patches. It seems like a cool idea. What other synths that can read a different synth's patches?
2. I would think, while it wouldn't be easy, that some synths should try to import other patches. It obviously wouldn't be exact - but think of all the patches for the virus a,b,c and they're in .mid format or all the patches in massive format. I'm surprised someone doesn't make a synth or translator to load them into a 3rd party synth.
my thoughts of the day. what do you think?
- u-he
- 28068 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I was thinking of an importer for various synths into Zebra, but scrapped it because it might piss someone off.
Technically and legally nothing speaks against it, i.e. a preset creator can't forbid you to load his preset into any synth you want. Neither can a synth creator forbid another to reverse engineer and load his preset format.
Yet, on a social level, I think it's a can of worms best left unopened.
Technically and legally nothing speaks against it, i.e. a preset creator can't forbid you to load his preset into any synth you want. Neither can a synth creator forbid another to reverse engineer and load his preset format.
Yet, on a social level, I think it's a can of worms best left unopened.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 955 posts since 18 Apr, 2006
I was actually thinking zebra would be one of the more capable synths (due to its flexible nature, among other things) to import 3rd party patches.
I totally understand why you wouldn't want to open that can of worms, though I think that would be an excellent start-up for a young entrepreneur with some programming skills.
I totally understand why you wouldn't want to open that can of worms, though I think that would be an excellent start-up for a young entrepreneur with some programming skills.
- KVRian
- 1091 posts since 13 Mar, 2008 from Arnhem, Netherlands
Synth1 and discoDSP Discovery can both read Nord Lead 1/2 presets...
- KVRAF
- 2289 posts since 18 Apr, 2001 from The Netherlands
the ones that come to mind are SQ8L and Discovery.jeffb01 wrote:1. I know NI FM7 could read DX7 patches. It seems like a cool idea. What other synths that can read a different synth's patches?
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, using Reaper and a fine selection of freeware plugins.
Ragnarök VST-synthesizer co-creator with Full Bucket
Ragnarök VST-synthesizer co-creator with Full Bucket
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- KVRist
- 249 posts since 2 Oct, 2012
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- KVRAF
- 4278 posts since 14 Nov, 2008 from UK
I think FM Heaven can both load TX81Z and DX7 patches, cannot remember - it is not installed currently.
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- KVRAF
- 1779 posts since 11 Jun, 2005 from Phoenix, Arizona
I started a converter about a year ago and stopped for that same reason.Urs wrote:Yet, on a social level, I think it's a can of worms best left unopened.
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
Of course he can, thats what EULA is for.Urs wrote:
Technically and legally nothing speaks against it, i.e. a preset creator can't forbid you to load his preset into any synth you want.
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
UncleAge wrote:I started a converter about a year ago and stopped for that same reason.Urs wrote:Yet, on a social level, I think it's a can of worms best left unopened.
Whats the point, its unlikely they will sound the same.
- u-he
- 28068 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Sorry but no, they can't. Various court decisions were made in this topic. A synth patch is a document, and while the file itself is copyrighted, the use of the file can't be - that is, the user can do with it whatever he wants. On top of that, file formats can not be copyrighted and thus reverse engineering is generally allowed. EULAs can't change that.Kriminal wrote:Of course he can, thats what EULA is for.Urs wrote:
Technically and legally nothing speaks against it, i.e. a preset creator can't forbid you to load his preset into any synth you want.
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- KVRAF
- 9135 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I doubt any worms would object to Zebra importing
ancient but golden DX7 sysex files. The sound designers are probably
old enough to be sharing territory with the worms by now anyway
Sysex banks are a pleasure to use with linux Hexter.
A light ZebraCM/Zebralette style version supporting them might sell quite well.
Cheers
ancient but golden DX7 sysex files. The sound designers are probably
old enough to be sharing territory with the worms by now anyway
Sysex banks are a pleasure to use with linux Hexter.
A light ZebraCM/Zebralette style version supporting them might sell quite well.
Cheers
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- addled muppet weed
- 105988 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
Urs wrote:I was thinking of an importer for various synths into Zebra, but scrapped it because it might piss someone off.
Technically and legally nothing speaks against it, i.e. a preset creator can't forbid you to load his preset into any synth you want. Neither can a synth creator forbid another to reverse engineer and load his preset format.
Yet, on a social level, I think it's a can of worms best left unopened.
do it and ill release it
i dont care who i piss off hehe
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- addled muppet weed
- 105988 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no that just stops me loading a bank from synth a into synth b and releasing it as my own work.Kriminal wrote:Of course he can, thats what EULA is for.Urs wrote:
Technically and legally nothing speaks against it, i.e. a preset creator can't forbid you to load his preset into any synth you want.