EDGEK8D wrote: Echoes in the Attic wrote: codec_spurt wrote:
EDGEK8D wrote: I've been chomping at the bit to jump into FM synthesis with a proper FM synth. I've got all of the major players in the realm of subtractive......but I'm not an NI guy. Though I did pick up Monark for $50 over the holidays, which was smart.
The Blue 2 website is surprising light on information. Just kind of talks about lots of filters and being able to do FM and subtractive yada, yada, yada.
Straight up, as an FM synth only, how does this compare to FM8. I'm not interested in its subtractive abilities
You sound churlish, and like you are expecting others to do your homework for you.
Did you go as far as looking to the Nam demo that Rob did?
You have heard of some great new synth. The new second coming. But you don't quite know why that is. But you want others to explain it to you. And you don't even ask nicely.
FM. This is so much more than an FM synth. Why compare it to FM8? That is just silly. You aren't interested in its subtractive capabilities? But that is integral to the synth in the main.
Yada yada yada.
If you want an FM only synth, why don't you try to get a DX-7 or something.
You have a really arrogant attitude.
I have no idea what that was all about, but anyways let's move on without derailing things into needless silly attacks...
EDGEK8D, your question was completely normal and reasonable, especially given that there is no demo for Blue II so I'll try to give some thoughts. I think the main difference is the sound. FM8 has a more traditional, DX7 inspired sound. It sounds more "digital" than Blue which has a thicker juicier sound, and can do subtractive well because of the variety of filters and lots of waveforms, waveshaping, pwm and other oscillator shaping functions. FM8 has some cool tricks like the morph square which can morph between entire patches. Blue's new square is really an oscillator cross-fader if I understand correctly, also with an XY mopdulator that can record movements. Blue 2 also has sample content now.
Both good synths with pretty fully featured FM capabilities (especially now that Blue has a fully assignable matrix), just different characters. Might be worth watching as many videos as you can on both.
Codec sees I have 5 posts here, so was thinking of hazing me a bit.
I'm just not on this forum much preferring the TONE of others a bit more.
Thanks for your reply. Exactly what I was after. I am pretty experienced with subtractive synthesis. I just don't want to have to buy both of these. I have too many already.
While Blue looks really attractive as a whole, I think I' am going with FM8. For $99 right now, the more traditional FM is what I'm after.
Don't sweat it codec, we all read a post through tinted glasses once in a while I guess.
Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick.
I read a post by CompyFox recently and he totally lost his grip on reality with what the dude was saying. He was accusing him of saying the very thing he was not. And CompyFox is a lot less demented than me, overall.
Anyway, what ever you do. Do NOT buy FM8. You will regret it massively. At least demo before you buy. These two synths are not in the same league. They are both a very different experience.
Don't let the 'FM' tag sway you. Really. Close your eyes. Listen. The complexity of FM8 is horrendous. Blue is logical in its complexity. Blue can sound like a Virus. It can sound analog. Phat, Fat and Warm. Full, even.
FM8 flatters to deceive.
Blue has a richness all its own, never matched by any other VST. Those that own it and own lots of other synths will back me up I'm sure. It's a true one off. Like some other synths I won't mention, coz you know, politics...