The All In One Source Bitwig Information & Speculation Thread
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- KVRian
- 525 posts since 24 Feb, 2008
I haven't tested it with Bitwig, but IMO SW needs to be redesigned for touch screens.
Many things that work well with mouse and keyboard do NOT work well with touch.
You need to leave more space for UI items because your finger tip is much less accurate than mouse pointer.
etc.
Many things that work well with mouse and keyboard do NOT work well with touch.
You need to leave more space for UI items because your finger tip is much less accurate than mouse pointer.
etc.
- KVRAF
- 10361 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Well I've been using both Maschine and FL Studio just fine with a touch screen. That's why I'm asking.
Sure, there are compromises to be made but they are much smaller than you might think. FL Studio already supports pinch to zoom for instance and it works brilliantly.
For Maschine the touch screen is mainly a supplement to the controller and as such it works brilliantly.
Anyhow, was just curious if it works at all.. Personally I think it's very short sighted if they haven't taken touch screens into consideration. They will be very much the norm in the not too distant future. Heck, it's almost difficult to find a laptop now that doesn't have a touch screen so not using this feature is a bit of a shame really, if that's the case.
Sure, there are compromises to be made but they are much smaller than you might think. FL Studio already supports pinch to zoom for instance and it works brilliantly.
For Maschine the touch screen is mainly a supplement to the controller and as such it works brilliantly.
Anyhow, was just curious if it works at all.. Personally I think it's very short sighted if they haven't taken touch screens into consideration. They will be very much the norm in the not too distant future. Heck, it's almost difficult to find a laptop now that doesn't have a touch screen so not using this feature is a bit of a shame really, if that's the case.
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- KVRian
- 525 posts since 24 Feb, 2008
I tried Ableton Live in a Windows8 laptop with touch screen and I like using it with mouse much more.
Surely touch screens are very good for some uses like allowing several X/Y-pad areas etc.
I've tried such midi controller SW in a tablet and it was quite nice.
But for most computer use I prefer keyboard and mouse.
Surely touch screens are very good for some uses like allowing several X/Y-pad areas etc.
I've tried such midi controller SW in a tablet and it was quite nice.
But for most computer use I prefer keyboard and mouse.
- KVRAF
- 25459 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I also prefer using the mouse and hotkeys...
I find touch screens somewhat clumsy and they frequently don't do what I want on the first try. If I am 'grabbing' a control, there is no tactile feedback that I am actually engaging the control the way I wish. I found touch screens to demand more mental attention to make sure I am actually doing what I intend due to the lack of precision. And they suck when you want to type something like a track name.
I find touch screens somewhat clumsy and they frequently don't do what I want on the first try. If I am 'grabbing' a control, there is no tactile feedback that I am actually engaging the control the way I wish. I found touch screens to demand more mental attention to make sure I am actually doing what I intend due to the lack of precision. And they suck when you want to type something like a track name.
- KVRist
- 320 posts since 21 Mar, 2010 from Manchester UK
I would say for DAWs, keyboard rules, trackpad second, mouse is in the bin and touchscreen, well, no idea how I would use one. I have a little 7 inch tablet, it's not bad for reading the Bitwig manual in bed. The funny thing is though, when I do that, I turn the pages with a keyboard!
Studio One, OS X 10.0, M-Audio Oxygen 25 keyboard.
Old websites:
http://www.bitwigtutorials.net Free Bitwig Studio tutorials
http://www.macableton.com Free Ableton Live and Mac tutorials.
Old websites:
http://www.bitwigtutorials.net Free Bitwig Studio tutorials
http://www.macableton.com Free Ableton Live and Mac tutorials.
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- KVRian
- 1483 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
I think you have free remote display apps (that put the pc screen in your tablet and let you control it) if you want to try it.kennyda wrote:I would say for DAWs, keyboard rules, trackpad second, mouse is in the bin and touchscreen, well, no idea how I would use one. I have a little 7 inch tablet, it's not bad for reading the Bitwig manual in bed. The funny thing is though, when I do that, I turn the pages with a keyboard!
Not sure how they are called but if you try them please post some impressions I would really like to know how they work.
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- KVRist
- 224 posts since 23 Aug, 2011
Mouse in the bin? A mouse is far superior to a touchpad, as it allows you to control cursor position and several buttons with one hand. You can't do that on a touchpad.kennyda wrote:I would say for DAWs, keyboard rules, trackpad second, mouse is in the bin and touchscreen, well, no idea how I would use one. I have a little 7 inch tablet, it's not bad for reading the Bitwig manual in bed. The funny thing is though, when I do that, I turn the pages with a keyboard!
- KVRist
- 320 posts since 21 Mar, 2010 from Manchester UK
what sort of buttons?virtualmark wrote:Mouse in the bin? A mouse is far superior to a touchpad, as it allows you to control cursor position and several buttons with one hand. You can't do that on a touchpad.kennyda wrote:I would say for DAWs, keyboard rules, trackpad second, mouse is in the bin and touchscreen, well, no idea how I would use one. I have a little 7 inch tablet, it's not bad for reading the Bitwig manual in bed. The funny thing is though, when I do that, I turn the pages with a keyboard!
Studio One, OS X 10.0, M-Audio Oxygen 25 keyboard.
Old websites:
http://www.bitwigtutorials.net Free Bitwig Studio tutorials
http://www.macableton.com Free Ableton Live and Mac tutorials.
Old websites:
http://www.bitwigtutorials.net Free Bitwig Studio tutorials
http://www.macableton.com Free Ableton Live and Mac tutorials.
- KVRist
- 320 posts since 21 Mar, 2010 from Manchester UK
You mean like Touchable? It's not for me. I can see they might be useful for some people. My eyes are quite bad so I need a big screen.pc999 wrote:I think you have free remote display apps (that put the pc screen in your tablet and let you control it) if you want to try it.kennyda wrote:I would say for DAWs, keyboard rules, trackpad second, mouse is in the bin and touchscreen, well, no idea how I would use one. I have a little 7 inch tablet, it's not bad for reading the Bitwig manual in bed. The funny thing is though, when I do that, I turn the pages with a keyboard!
Not sure how they are called but if you try them please post some impressions I would really like to know how they work.
Studio One, OS X 10.0, M-Audio Oxygen 25 keyboard.
Old websites:
http://www.bitwigtutorials.net Free Bitwig Studio tutorials
http://www.macableton.com Free Ableton Live and Mac tutorials.
Old websites:
http://www.bitwigtutorials.net Free Bitwig Studio tutorials
http://www.macableton.com Free Ableton Live and Mac tutorials.
- KVRian
- 728 posts since 29 Aug, 2013
Nothing specific in mind.kennyda wrote:Seems ok, but have you got a specific test?Regnas wrote:... And how is Bitwig on CPU, friendly or foe?
But I would like to know if I can run Bitwig on a low-end PC.
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 4 Jan, 2010
So, I read that Bitwig doesn't support multiple VST outputs. Does anyone know whether there is a plan to support it, and a date for it?
I own an NI Maschine and a couple of VST plugs with multiple outputs and the this will prevent me from buying Bitwig. A shame because it looks very amazing.
Another question, does anybody know whether Bitwig plays well with UAD cards and their latency?
I own an NI Maschine and a couple of VST plugs with multiple outputs and the this will prevent me from buying Bitwig. A shame because it looks very amazing.
Another question, does anybody know whether Bitwig plays well with UAD cards and their latency?
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- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
I just stumbled across this video from over a year ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oohJkiwkhA8
Have you guys seen this? What the hell? There is a group track right there in the middle!!! Why are people reporting that Bitwig does not have group tracks if they had it implemented over a year ago?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oohJkiwkhA8
Have you guys seen this? What the hell? There is a group track right there in the middle!!! Why are people reporting that Bitwig does not have group tracks if they had it implemented over a year ago?