Most natural real spaces reverb vst?
- KVRer
- 27 posts since 24 Jan, 2005 from Germany
The problem with all those "real accoustic reverbs" is the reflections which are already present in the primary signal. To mae use of reverb algorithms, which base on accoustic modelling of real scenes, the recorded sound has to be free of any reflections so it has to be done in a silenced room / dead room. This on the other hand usually does not work with classical voices, because according to all my experiences with classical singers, they NEED a room with refelections and simply cannot sing propperly in dead rooms.
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- KVRAF
- 4278 posts since 6 Nov, 2009
The kind of places I notice reverb is like, in a public restroom.
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Anyway, on a serious note, Xoxos made an "Outdoor Reverb" http://www.xoxos.net/vst/vst.html I honestly don't know what a "natural reverb" is though, admittedly.
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Anyway, on a serious note, Xoxos made an "Outdoor Reverb" http://www.xoxos.net/vst/vst.html I honestly don't know what a "natural reverb" is though, admittedly.
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- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
While those verbs sound great, they don't sound like real spaces, nor was that likely even a goal for either. Musical? Yes, absolutely. Realistic? As in sounds like a real room/space? I'd say no.Pule wrote:+1Kaboom75 wrote:For reverb alogos Valhalla Room and Phoenix Verb are the most natural to me.
Verberate from Acon Digital is probably your best bet for that.
- KVRAF
- 3426 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Pacific NW
The Lexicon 480L Room and Hall presets were sorted according to whether or not they had early reflections. The presets with early reflections had "Stage" appended to their names. Presumably this was done for the reasons you discussed: adding early reflections to a signal with existing early reflections can result in unpleasant coloration.engineer wrote:The problem with all those "real accoustic reverbs" is the reflections which are already present in the primary signal. To mae use of reverb algorithms, which base on accoustic modelling of real scenes, the recorded sound has to be free of any reflections so it has to be done in a silenced room / dead room. This on the other hand usually does not work with classical voices, because according to all my experiences with classical singers, they NEED a room with refelections and simply cannot sing propperly in dead rooms.
Lots of reverb algorithms have a level control for the early reflections, so you can turn these down or off if necessary.
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- KVRAF
- 1782 posts since 4 Sep, 2011 from England
Must be why I don't like the convulsion reverbs then the more real people say they are the more I don't like them when tested on synths. I only like algo reverbs that allow creativity to tailor it to the synth sounds I make.
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
- KVRAF
- 2177 posts since 12 Nov, 2009
I'd strongly suggest Eareverb or the cheaper Eareverb SE.
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- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
I'm really digging Quikquak Rayspace. Had a blast with the demo and picked up the full version. Sound is fairly realistic, I don't think it'd win in a shoutout with a real space and someone keen to spot the differences, but it's real enough to create recognizable spaces, particularly ambient, environmental ones with lots of spatial cues, like train stations and kitchens.
I'm also finding the "build the room and set the material/air properties" method of programming reverb a lot more fun and intuitive than the knob-based GUI approach, especially when you want reverbs with spatial cues and weird features.
I'm also finding the "build the room and set the material/air properties" method of programming reverb a lot more fun and intuitive than the knob-based GUI approach, especially when you want reverbs with spatial cues and weird features.
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- KVRAF
- 7402 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
Yes it is pretty fantastic. For a nerd like me, I would rather be able to define each surface's reflectivity, which Voxengo impulse modeler can do, but Rayspace is quick and fun, and like you said, spacious.Sendy wrote:I'm really digging Quikquak Rayspace. Had a blast with the demo and picked up the full version. Sound is fairly realistic, I don't think it'd win in a shoutout with a real space and someone keen to spot the differences, but it's real enough to create recognizable spaces, particularly ambient, environmental ones with lots of spatial cues, like train stations and kitchens.
I'm also finding the "build the room and set the material/air properties" method of programming reverb a lot more fun and intuitive than the knob-based GUI approach, especially when you want reverbs with spatial cues and weird features.
Here is an impulse of a RFZ room I drew up, and another of the same but added Float Crush to the impulse.
http://www.datafilehost.com/d/8a484b46
unclick the little box before clicking download, it's a zip file.
A little pre-delay is necessary.
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 6 Feb, 2005 from Canada
I would recommend you try some kinds of hybird convolution and algorithm reverb, here is one
http://www.supremepiano.com/product/reverb.html
http://www.supremepiano.com/product/reverb.html
- KVRAF
- 5678 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
Wordcyphersuit wrote:I'd strongly suggest Eareverb or the cheaper Eareverb SE.
So true
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- KVRian
- 985 posts since 30 Dec, 2005
Dont know if its been posted yet, but I really like EastWest Spaces: http://www.soundsonline.com/Spaces
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- KVRian
- 1394 posts since 28 Mar, 2002 from Austria
This is it. Very impressive. Ralph Kessler impulses (best I've ever heard)LGK_Dude wrote:Dont know if its been posted yet, but I really like EastWest Spaces: http://www.soundsonline.com/Spaces
- KVRist
- 274 posts since 6 Oct, 2013 from South Australia
The sample recordings on their website sound amazing. The only thing putting me off is the iLok requirement.LGK_Dude wrote:Dont know if its been posted yet, but I really like EastWest Spaces: http://www.soundsonline.com/Spaces
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