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Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

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foosnark
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2632 posts since 9 Jan, 2003, from Saint Louis MO

Postby foosnark; Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:20 pm Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

Sawmill (download)

Take a deep breath.

In a perfect world, if you're very careful and patient and you give Sawmill only the purest monophonic sine waves, it will produce sawtooth waves at the same frequency and amplitude.

We don't live in that perfect world. We know you're not really all that careful with the input, and you're too curious for your own good. But mostly, Sawmill has a faulty zero crossing detector and a disobedient mutant sawtooth generator.

You can divide the zero crossing counter, which should reliably lower the pitch by octaves but it doesn't.

You can bias the detector so it's not really looking for zero crossing, but crossing some other number.

You can multiply the delta inside the generator, which lowers its cycle time and therefore raises its frequency... except it kind of doesn't work that way.

You can let the generator ring out at previous frequency while it waits for the next zero crossing. But if you've touched the bias parameter (I warned you about that) it may never get that next crossing. Good luck with that.

And you can change the rules about what "previous frequency" means and sweep it upward until it breaks the Nyquist barrier and gives up, or down until it... actually it just keeps going down and those clicks get sparser and lonelier.

There are some useful settings. There's also lots of weird shit. That's the way I like my fuzz effects. I'm just not sure this is fuzz anymore.

(Based on a much less weird module I wrote for Patchblocks. I let the world of actual floats instead of undocumented fixed point decimal types get to my head. Sorry.)

(This one comes in 32 and 64 bit Windows flavors.)
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RunBeerRun
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7277 posts since 2 Aug, 2005, from Guitar Land, USA

Postby RunBeerRun; Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:16 pm Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

Ok, I'll download it and try in a minute.

Edit-Energy xt says missing MSVCR120.dll
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Sendy
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Postby Sendy; Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:40 pm Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

I couldn't get it to show up in Cubase 6 32-bit.
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Ranjarresh
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302 posts since 29 Dec, 2012, from Poland

Postby Ranjarresh; Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:04 pm Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

Windows XP SP3, Reaper 4.62 - plugin initialization fails with message "The procedure entry point _except1 could not be located in the dynamic link library MSVCR120.dll"
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Postby V-GER; Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:16 pm Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

Counterintuitive misbehaving fuzzy glitchiness? Don't mind if I do. :wink:

I got a message about missing some "MSVCP120.dll" and a little crash in FL Studio when I first tried to load it, but I assumed what the allmight internet says works for other software when this problem arises should work here too and indeed the "Visual C++ Redistributable Packages for Visual Studio 2013 " downloads @ http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download ... x?id=40784 took care of that.

A lot of fun so far, but the "DetDivide" parameter can't be adjusted by it's knob in FL Studio 11. :( I'm on Windows 7. I can automate it just fine though.

Made a somewhat pad-ish sound in Vember Audio Surge and Sawmilled the reverb, then I decided vocoding the Sawmilled reverb with the orignal sound with a long release instead of EQ-ing away the frequencies I didn't want there was a good idea and got some interesting slightly scraping sort of nice noises I rather enjoyed out at the end. 8)
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RunBeerRun
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Postby RunBeerRun; Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:30 pm Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

Thanks for that link, V-GER, I actually have 2 versions of vcredist_x86 installed, but I don't know what year they are as they don't say, they don't add to it with every release, I had to locate a previous build to get Synthedit 1.1 working.

Edit again-got it working, sounds pretty unique. Testing it on a clean guitar file.
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foosnark
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Postby foosnark; Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:59 pm Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

Ah, figures I'd have to redistribute other DLLs with the thing. The dangers of testing on a development machine...

I wonder why knob feedback is so broken for DetDivide -- not working for me in FL or in MUX. Though in MUX if you drag the control to a meta-parameter, that one works. Probably the same as automation though. Works fine in Maschine, but then Maschine's handling of VST parameters is slightly screwy.

I'll see if I can sort that out and add the necessary redist files.
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foosnark
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2632 posts since 9 Jan, 2003, from Saint Louis MO

Postby foosnark; Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:35 pm Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

Okay, updated. This should fix the knob bug (which would have been obvious if I'd tested in anything other than Maschine first), and the runtime is statically linked so there shouldn't be any DLL dependencies.

Let me know if there are any other issues. :tu:
sinkmusic
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Postby sinkmusic; Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:41 am Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect
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Ranjarresh
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302 posts since 29 Dec, 2012, from Poland

Postby Ranjarresh; Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:25 am Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

Newest build works perfectly (if you call resulting wild cacophony the perfection ;) ). I like it!
Tested in Reaper, VSTHost86, VSTForx, MUX.
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300 posts since 7 May, 2002, from ... , germany

Postby tl; Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:34 am Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

thank you. nice work.
the update works great in plogue bidule on win xp.
those are the fx i like...

cheers,
tl.
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Sendy
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Postby Sendy; Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:36 am Re: Sawmill - a weird counterintuitive glitchy fuzz warping effect

Ok, TRI-ing again. /\/\/\/\/\/
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