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Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

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Which one was harder for you?

1. Sound designing (learning synthesis (subtractive, additive, fm etc.) )
2
29%
2. Music structure (learning melodies, mixing, mastering)
5
71%
 
Total votes : 7
Any Good Username?
KVRist
 
46 posts since 6 Jul, 2014

Postby Any Good Username?; Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:47 pm Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

Which one was harder for you?
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DJ Warmonger
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443 posts since 7 Jun, 2012, from Warsaw

Postby DJ Warmonger; Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:53 pm Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

This question is absurd. Please do not start threads anymore. :dog:
http://djwarmonger.wordpress.com/
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
c_bomb
KVRist
 
155 posts since 3 Apr, 2012, from Melbourne

Postby c_bomb; Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:12 pm Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

DJ Warmonger wrote:This question is absurd. Please do not start threads anymore. :dog:


I didn't have to say it! :party:

:hug:
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V0RT3X
KVRAF
 
4144 posts since 3 Jul, 2012

Postby V0RT3X; Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:20 pm Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

Don't mind the DJ crowd around here, they can get a bit testy at times. :hihi:
Having the best tools and technical knowledge isn't gonna do much for you if you don't understand how to make good music.
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KVRist
 
46 posts since 6 Jul, 2014

Postby Any Good Username?; Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:38 am Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

i really dont understand, because learning synthesis was more harder for me. Song structure is just you have to make good melodies and some mixing, mastering knowledges.

can someone tell me i'm wrong?
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V0RT3X
KVRAF
 
4144 posts since 3 Jul, 2012

Postby V0RT3X; Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:46 am Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

Any Good Username? wrote:i really dont understand, because learning synthesis was more harder for me. Song structure is just you have to make good melodies and some mixing, mastering knowledges.

can someone tell me i'm wrong?



Learning sound design is pretty easy. I think mixing, mastering and creating is harder.

Your not wrong, it's just different for everyone.

If you have time you can check out these free online university courses

https://www.coursera.org/courses?orderb ... cats=music
Having the best tools and technical knowledge isn't gonna do much for you if you don't understand how to make good music.
Any Good Username?
KVRist
 
46 posts since 6 Jul, 2014

Postby Any Good Username?; Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:18 am Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

V0RT3X wrote:
Any Good Username? wrote:i really dont understand, because learning synthesis was more harder for me. Song structure is just you have to make good melodies and some mixing, mastering knowledges.

can someone tell me i'm wrong?



Learning sound design is pretty easy. I think mixing, mastering and creating is harder.

Your not wrong, it's just different for everyone.

If you have time you can check out these free online university courses

https://www.coursera.org/courses?orderb ... cats=music



Is it because of melody making? because mixing and mastering is easy for me.
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V0RT3X
KVRAF
 
4144 posts since 3 Jul, 2012

Postby V0RT3X; Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:22 am Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

Any Good Username? wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:
Any Good Username? wrote:i really dont understand, because learning synthesis was more harder for me. Song structure is just you have to make good melodies and some mixing, mastering knowledges.

can someone tell me i'm wrong?



Learning sound design is pretty easy. I think mixing, mastering and creating is harder.

Your not wrong, it's just different for everyone.

If you have time you can check out these free online university courses

https://www.coursera.org/courses?orderb ... cats=music



Is it because of melody making? because mixing and mastering is easy for me.


I don't even know how to break down my workflow because i learned everything sort of randomly. I never followed any formal education, i taught myself from video tutorials, experimenting *LOTS*, and using my ears for about 11 years now.

I could have probably saved a lot of time by going a formal route. It would have saved me lots of time, but who knows i probably would have not learned what i have learned so far. As far as sound design goes I can hear lots of complex stuff now and know ways in my head to reproduce similar results. It's kind of distracting when i'm complexing on non musical things and a song plays on the radio.. lol
Having the best tools and technical knowledge isn't gonna do much for you if you don't understand how to make good music.
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thecontrolcentre
KVRAF
 
16477 posts since 27 Jul, 2005, from the wilds of wanny

Postby thecontrolcentre; Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:23 am Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

Neither (fish) :shrug:
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robojam
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20784 posts since 26 Jul, 2005, from Inside Schroedinger's Cat...or am I...

Postby robojam; Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:31 am Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

thecontrolcentre wrote:Neither (fish) :shrug:

Fish or something like that. Neither were difficult compared to learning how to play an instrument.
Any Good Username?
KVRist
 
46 posts since 6 Jul, 2014

Postby Any Good Username?; Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:36 am Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

V0RT3X wrote:
Any Good Username? wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:
Any Good Username? wrote:i really dont understand, because learning synthesis was more harder for me. Song structure is just you have to make good melodies and some mixing, mastering knowledges.

can someone tell me i'm wrong?



Learning sound design is pretty easy. I think mixing, mastering and creating is harder.

Your not wrong, it's just different for everyone.

If you have time you can check out these free online university courses

https://www.coursera.org/courses?orderb ... cats=music



Is it because of melody making? because mixing and mastering is easy for me.


I don't even know how to break down my workflow because i learned everything sort of randomly. I never followed any formal education, i taught myself from video tutorials, experimenting *LOTS*, and using my ears for about 11 years now.

I could have probably saved a lot of time by going a formal route. It would have saved me lots of time, but who knows i probably would have not learned what i have learned so far. As far as sound design goes I can hear lots of complex stuff now and know ways in my head to reproduce similar results. It's kind of distracting when i'm complexing on non musical things and a song plays on the radio.. lol


No that's not what i'm talking about, i'm just considering if i didn't learn music structure properly, i know how to make melody, know how to use some effects, mixing, mastering. is there more than this?
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V0RT3X
KVRAF
 
4144 posts since 3 Jul, 2012

Postby V0RT3X; Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:40 am Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

Any Good Username? wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:
Any Good Username? wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:
Any Good Username? wrote:i really dont understand, because learning synthesis was more harder for me. Song structure is just you have to make good melodies and some mixing, mastering knowledges.

can someone tell me i'm wrong?



Learning sound design is pretty easy. I think mixing, mastering and creating is harder.

Your not wrong, it's just different for everyone.

If you have time you can check out these free online university courses

https://www.coursera.org/courses?orderb ... cats=music



Is it because of melody making? because mixing and mastering is easy for me.


I don't even know how to break down my workflow because i learned everything sort of randomly. I never followed any formal education, i taught myself from video tutorials, experimenting *LOTS*, and using my ears for about 11 years now.

I could have probably saved a lot of time by going a formal route. It would have saved me lots of time, but who knows i probably would have not learned what i have learned so far. As far as sound design goes I can hear lots of complex stuff now and know ways in my head to reproduce similar results. It's kind of distracting when i'm complexing on non musical things and a song plays on the radio.. lol


No that's not what i'm talking about, i'm just considering if i didn't learn music structure properly, i know how to make melody, know how to use some effects, mixing, mastering. is there more than this?



Well it depends.. on what you want to do and what kind of music you intend to create. If you decide to produce Glitch/IDM stuff you'll find the workflow in song sound design is very very different from doing something like making generic EDM.

Also you can't really have mastered mixing and mastering unless you went and got a degree in it :P It's some seriously deep shit.
Having the best tools and technical knowledge isn't gonna do much for you if you don't understand how to make good music.
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KVRist
 
46 posts since 6 Jul, 2014

Postby Any Good Username?; Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:07 pm Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

Ok this is new question.

If i separate music as 2 parts,

1. melody making,

2. all other stuffs (sound making, mixing etc.)


which one do you think is most harder?
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V0RT3X
KVRAF
 
4144 posts since 3 Jul, 2012

Postby V0RT3X; Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:09 pm Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

Any Good Username? wrote:Ok this is new question.

If i separate music as 2 parts,

1. melody making,

2. all other stuffs (sound making, mixing etc.)


which one do you think is most harder?


How about you just go make music? All of it can be hard, it just depends on what your doing. :tu:
Having the best tools and technical knowledge isn't gonna do much for you if you don't understand how to make good music.
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Inversoundzzz
KVRist
 
133 posts since 20 May, 2014

Postby Inversoundzzz; Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:57 pm Re: Which one was harder for you? Sound designing vs Song structure(mixing, mastering etc.)

its all hard, it gets easier though
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