Kontakt 6?
- KVRAF
- 23103 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Overhaul probably won't happen. You can script your own round robin if you want and NI will probably just leave it at that.
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- KVRAF
- 2193 posts since 25 Dec, 2005
i admit i'm stuck at this point.EvilDragon wrote:Overhaul probably won't happen. You can script your own round robin if you want and NI will probably just leave it at that.
..and i mean random robin not round robin.
well,no most useful sampler feature since the beginning of human history for me then....
- KVRAF
- 23103 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
What's the problem with random round robin? It's all in Group Start Options, and it's working.
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- KVRAF
- 2193 posts since 25 Dec, 2005
the problem with random robin is that you can't have other groups with different samples in one instrument.EvilDragon wrote:What's the problem with random round robin? It's all in Group Start Options, and it's working.
random robin plays straight through all other groups as well (if you enable random robin for them).
- KVRAF
- 23103 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Aha, that's true. This is where you can script things to behave exactly like you want them to behave. It's not that hard, let's say you have 16 groups, and you want to have 4 groups of 4 RR. Code:
This is a rudimentary example. The random() function can repeat values, so there are ways to combat that (Fisher-Yates shuffle, for example) to get true non-repeating round robin. It's a bit more complex. You can expand this method by having as many RR sets with different amounts of groups, just by changing the sizes of %RRlow and %RRhigh arrays, and the numbers in them (basically, those numbers denote the starting and ending group of each RR set). Of course, if using more than 4 RR sets, you'd need to add additional allow_group() commands in the "on note" callback.
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on init
declare %RRlow[4] := (0,4,8,12)
declare %RRhigh[4] := (3,7,11,15)
end on
on note
disallow_group($ALL_GROUPS)
allow_group(random(%RRlow[0],%RRhigh[0]))
allow_group(random(%RRlow[1],%RRhigh[1]))
allow_group(random(%RRlow[2],%RRhigh[2]))
allow_group(random(%RRlow[3],%RRhigh[3]))
end on
This is a rudimentary example. The random() function can repeat values, so there are ways to combat that (Fisher-Yates shuffle, for example) to get true non-repeating round robin. It's a bit more complex. You can expand this method by having as many RR sets with different amounts of groups, just by changing the sizes of %RRlow and %RRhigh arrays, and the numbers in them (basically, those numbers denote the starting and ending group of each RR set). Of course, if using more than 4 RR sets, you'd need to add additional allow_group() commands in the "on note" callback.
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- KVRAF
- 2193 posts since 25 Dec, 2005
woow,
+1 for being a very helpful person!
thanks a lot i'm going to investigate and report back.
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- KVRist
- 476 posts since 28 Jun, 2002 from Vancouver, Canada
They could fix the automation bugs, for a start (try routing multiple sources to a single destination ... other samplers sum the automation, Kontakt just gets confused). Also, they could fix everything that's supposed to be tempo-sync'd. It's a joke how they're doing it now. And the DELAY ... what a piece of garbage that is, seriously.
There's lots to fix. And my support requests go unheeded. They're not helpful, and borderline passive-aggressive when they're not busy passing the buck. Oh, and the FILTER bug where in K5 it's no longer possible to do instant-on filter changes with a scripted array without it wobbling in ... but it's not SMOOTHED as you can still hear zippering. I mean, one or the other would be passable, but neither accurate nor smooth? What a joke.
They don't care. There are lots of us complaining all the time. That's why I'm gonna dump Kontakt and go to Machfive 3. It may not be as efficient with huge sample sets, but it's a far sight better in a LOT of other ways.
There's lots to fix. And my support requests go unheeded. They're not helpful, and borderline passive-aggressive when they're not busy passing the buck. Oh, and the FILTER bug where in K5 it's no longer possible to do instant-on filter changes with a scripted array without it wobbling in ... but it's not SMOOTHED as you can still hear zippering. I mean, one or the other would be passable, but neither accurate nor smooth? What a joke.
They don't care. There are lots of us complaining all the time. That's why I'm gonna dump Kontakt and go to Machfive 3. It may not be as efficient with huge sample sets, but it's a far sight better in a LOT of other ways.
- KVRAF
- 23103 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
I think this was the case even before Kontakt 5. I don't recall.MacQ wrote:Oh, and the FILTER bug where in K5 it's no longer possible to do instant-on filter changes with a scripted array without it wobbling in ... but it's not SMOOTHED as you can still hear zippering.
I'm more taken aback with gain staging bug in 3x2 filter... makes it unusable at certain settings!
- KVRer
- 6 posts since 20 Aug, 2014 from Wellington New Zealand
I reckon a little clip gain/reduction fader (like Pro Tools 11 has) on each sample in the Wave Editor window would be very useful.
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- KVRAF
- 23103 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
You have zone volume in Mapping Editor for that.
- KVRer
- 6 posts since 20 Aug, 2014 from Wellington New Zealand
Thanks Evil Dragon. You've just saved us a bunch of wasted time.
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Straight2Vinyl Straight2Vinyl https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=395170
- KVRist
- 336 posts since 10 Mar, 2017
An MPE option would be nice. You can already copy an instrument multiple times to create the per note effect, but a simple option in the channel settings would be cool.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
Ha, I wouldn't count on it. NI aren't exactly forward thinking these days. Their Komplete Krap keyboards don't even have poly aftertouch.Straight2Vinyl wrote:An MPE option would be nice. You can already copy an instrument multiple times to create the per note effect, but a simple option in the channel settings would be cool.
- KVRAF
- 23103 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
99% of today's keyboards don't even have poly aftertouch, so...
Hell, a lot of them don't even have basic aftertouch!
Hell, a lot of them don't even have basic aftertouch!