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Urs wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:I'm thinking of creative filters like formant/vocal filters or comb filters (they would fit great to the "Hive" sound quality!). I don't think that there should be steeper slopes like 48 or 96 dB (nobody is using them, except surgeons), just some different filter types to add different flavors.
I never found steeper slopes to be overly useful. However, you can route filter 1 into filter 2. That creates a lot of potential.

As for formant/vocal and comb filters - if we do these then as part of waveforms / synthesis methods added to the oscillator section.

In the grand scheme I think Hive would be very suited for some sort of pad synthesis. In fact I've experimented a lot with the infamous PADsynth algorithm by Nasca Octavian Paul. I just haven't found a sufficient way to keep memory and CPU down while maintaining a no-brainer interface. Experiments with realtime synthesis were great, but not yet fully convincing.
If you made a new GUI for ZynAddSubFX with one window, I'd be dancing on the floor the whole week... It's a great synth with a lot of potential (especially the PADsynth) but the workflow with all these windows and the Windows 95 look is terrible...

But hands up for (the idea of) integrating a pad synthesis into Hive! :tu:

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I posted a few demo tracks in the other Hive thread and finally got around to cleaning up the presets. I had to adjust volume levels and a bit for sound coloration as the betas evolved. I also added reasonable modulation targets to help others use the sound as I did. I used DAW track envelopes to modulate the sounds originally.

You can download the sounds here:
https://app.box.com/s/49rpva9xuotc5ftz30ov

And if you want to hear the demos I made here they are. Several were recorded before I did this final preset cleanup so they might not sound 100% identical. I did try very hard to make them as close as possible. I think they're close enough personally. :) Enjoy!

deadr4t: https://app.box.com/s/wugczh32qbxa482bptlh
Fun squares: https://app.box.com/s/6hfps909j3ag975dd8vj
Virus arp: https://app.box.com/s/cpr2my6tu5xiyzmad1dw
90's trance: https://app.box.com/s/31c7go6d5mapyehe6oyk

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Urs and team --

Congratulations on Hive. It's simply terrific. Super-easy to program and sounds HUGE. The de-tune implementation is especially impressive as it's really musical. I like the oscillators very much, too. Really fun to use. Here's a quick piece with six instances of Hive (plus drums) that I think demonstrates how big and warm it can sound. Making the sounds was really easy - I found the interface to very intuitive after about 5 min of poking around.

https://soundcloud.com/ontrackp/hive-test-1

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Urs wrote:Thing is, we want to get rid of BC and XP anyway and make those a choice like MIDI1 and MIDI2. And maybe add MIDI3 and MIDI4 as well. It'll eventually happen once our preferences panel emerges for all plug-ins. So then, there's not really any disadvantage over a dedicated mod name here, in the long run.
Might as well do away with modwheel and pitch bend and have them as MIDI1/2/3/4 etc...

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Bought. Great sound. I wish to have filters like these in Zebra. Very musical, very fast (CPU-wise) and full of character. Yes, I have ZHZ, but Diva filters are mono and very CPU-hungry, especially if to use two to make sound stereo.

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Can we hope to cool factory presets some time upon purchase. Also some tutorial videos? Some of us start from scratch in preset making business...

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Another preset.

Feeling Zen?

This is using Hive to play meditative sequences with evolving 'melodies' (Using sustain pedal)

If you choose the right notes you can get Kitaro-like sequences.

Enjoy!

(Thank you so much, Urs. This synth is so much fun to play/work with! :hail:)

Z.
 
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Something I did up quick last night in the hive sequencer/arp. For some reason I feel like last night when tweaking the second osc I had a lot more bass oomph behind it (felt some good floor vibrations) that I cant seem to duplicate today when tweaking. Anyways, it aint fancy or nothing, but it was quick and easy to get to with the sequencer+alternate mod

https://soundcloud.com/ezelkow1/hive-bass-line

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Will hive get oscillator sync?

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I also think you should take it slowly and release a mature version in March. In view of the final price it is to be a quality synth, not some freeware, so it should be kind of perfect, without any bugs and sloppiness.

I like synths to be complete as in not missing important and standard features, but I would discard a number of things people are suggesting here as if you were Santa Claus :D It is pretty good the way it is already. Reasonable limitations are productive as sound programming takes less time, so there is more time for actually using that thing in one's music.

In terms of GUI, I think I would prefer if the cutoff and resonance knobs were somehow different from all the others as they are probably the two most important knobs in terms of tweaking. But maybe that's just my view...

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D-Fusion wrote:Will hive get oscillator sync?
There's a chance. If it happens it'll be a waveform or two of the suboscillator, syncing to the main osc (but not doing the unison thing). Same for FM and Crossmod.

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https://www.sendspace.com/file/kzsx1q

Here are 23 Hive patches made by me. Mostly typical EDM/psytrance stuff, nothing too fancy. Hope, someone will find it useful :)
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try

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The ability to set the LFO time division -1/8, 1/16, etc - as modulator target might be an idea.

Dubstep wobbles and the like.

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Urs wrote: Thing is, we want to get rid of BC and XP anyway and make those a choice like MIDI1 and MIDI2. And maybe add MIDI3 and MIDI4 as well. It'll eventually happen once our preferences panel emerges for all plug-ins. So then, there's not really any disadvantage over a dedicated mod name here, in the long run.
don't get rid of BC.. I use it all the time :)

seriously though, having 4 midi user assignable (to CC) inputs is cool, as there are some controllers (continuum/linnstrument/soundplane) which support the continuum standard CC 11 and 74 + pitch bend for per key expression, then use others for things like strips, breath, pedals etc.
if your doing this, it would be great if you could also support 14 bit midi for these inputs :)

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Some audio fun, all sounds are Hive: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0nndaf1xqqwrr ... g.mp3?dl=1

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