Spire Synthesizer
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
They've even gone as quiet about overdue promised updates as sylenth1!
- KVRAF
- 10261 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Actually, LennarDigital just made an announcement a few days ago regarding the next update:Echoes in the Attic wrote:They've even gone as quiet about overdue promised updates as sylenth1!
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&t=427742Also we'd like to announce that we're close to releasing the new version of Sylenth1 that will fully support 64bit VST and AU for OSX! This update can be expected in the first months of 2015. We'd like to point out that the update will be free for all our customers!
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- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 9 Dec, 2011 from falling
Surprised we haven't seen a Spire vs. Hive shootout yet. Spire has a larger range, but still interesting.
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- KVRAF
- 5678 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
Unless the CPU use is reduced, Hive will be the better option in my books.
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRist
- 113 posts since 25 Apr, 2014
I'm sorry, but if your PC is so weak that it can't run Spire, then you may as well just get a ROMpler because I don't think synths are going to work out for you at all.
- KVRAF
- 5678 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
actually my machine is a beast, but Spire can be one also.
p.s. i've been making music on computers since the 90's dude, no need for douchebaggery.
p.s. i've been making music on computers since the 90's dude, no need for douchebaggery.
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
- KVRAF
- 3261 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Got to agree...spire can chew the hell out of an i7 given the opportunity, like many others synthmaster, lush, diva to name a fewsqigls wrote:actually my machine is a beast, but Spire can be one also.
p.s. i've been making music on computers since the 90's dude, no need for douchebaggery.
But then I do like my outboard hardware for the overhead.
Now all I need is some talent!!!
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- KVRian
- 1352 posts since 30 Mar, 2011
That's a rather crude statement.TonyVegas wrote:I'm sorry, but if your PC is so weak that it can't run Spire, then you may as well just get a ROMpler because I don't think synths are going to work out for you at all.
If a sound in Spire takes up 20 percent of my CPU, and the almost exact same sound in Zebra takes 5 percent, then I know which synth to choose.
Of course I can use Spire for some bass/leads etc., but some patches just don't work CPU wise (on a Core i3.)
- KVRAF
- 3261 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
I think it really depends on the presets and settings that are in use. Get the same with Synthmaster, although like Spire, the CPU usage has decreased.TonyVegas wrote:You guys might want to check your setups for virus or something because I'm on a 3 year old i7 laptop and Spire CPU usage is miniscule.
To be honest I often find with a lot of synths, in bypassing the effects, particularly reverbs and delays the CPU hit is reduced. I actually prefer to use independant delays and reverbs with a majority of synths onan fx send any way. Simply having something like B2 or Valhalla verbs on a single channel serving a multitude of tracks, has a pleasing result and good resource economy. However any patches with long sustain and using chords or multi keying, will wack the ASIO up.
As far as virus, setups and systems go I am extremely confident there is no issue. Spire being miniscule, is an understatement, but it's got a lot better. To be honest with Cubase 8's improved ASIO I have found a lot of scope for more headroom - which is a good thing.
- KVRAF
- 5678 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
it's unison and the like really. When I made my own patches i could cut down on CPU use. The sound Spire spits out is fantastic compared to the CPU use generally, but when loading some patches while browsing new sounds in a project that is getting quite loaded already, can produce serious pulses of processor drainage. I'm very keen for the release candidate of Hive. I don't really have a bread and butter synth anymore, except for Massive, but I'm not so fond of Massive really, for some reason. Diva is my goto now, but I quicky learned that it's not really bread and butter synth
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- Banned
- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
I myself am able to run detuned saw 8 instances playing only 2 voice melody on core i7 4790KTonyVegas wrote:I'm sorry, but if your PC is so weak that it can't run Spire, then you may as well just get a ROMpler because I don't think synths are going to work out for you at all.
Its not a weak CPU, synth is CPU hungry and everyone knows that But the sound quality is just really amazing, at one point you can justify the CPU use But I still hope teased version 1.10 will come soon with some heavy CPU performance improvements
- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 9 Dec, 2011 from falling
Most people don't realize, but even Sylenth can eat a bunch of CPU when making big trance supersaws with long release times.
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- KVRAF
- 35437 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Fair enough, but comparing an over 10 year old synth to a 1 1/2 year old (?) one isn't a fair comparison. Obviously it will take more CPU, because the sound engine makes use of the performance of nowadays machines.2ZrgE wrote: If a sound in Spire takes up 20 percent of my CPU, and the almost exact same sound in Zebra takes 5 percent, then I know which synth to choose.
That said, i'm also hoping for the update, especially for running Spire on my cheapo i3 notebook. My guess would be that they're working hard on it.
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- KVRist
- 57 posts since 6 May, 2014
The problem is no synth could use multi-core (or thread) to process one instance. At least in LPX it is the case. Too many patches are almost unusable on my Macbook Pro (i5 CPU). Mere few notes could render a load of crackle.
If LPX allows Spire to use multi-thread process, I can simply bounce in place one track and work on next. And I'll say let Spire be an even more beast, I don't care.
If LPX allows Spire to use multi-thread process, I can simply bounce in place one track and work on next. And I'll say let Spire be an even more beast, I don't care.