Bass sounds in mono
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- KVRer
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- 28 posts since 10 Oct, 2014
What does it mean when people say to have the bassline in mono, does it mean it should only have one voice, or in mono on the synth. Or does it mean the output sound should be in mono rather then stereo?
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35189 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
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- KVRian
- 1256 posts since 15 Mar, 2007 from Yorkshire, England
Yeh mono output. In the past bass had to be mono to prevent the needle jumping out of a record! but nowadays it is not so strict although given that bass sounds are not very directional to the ear it makes sense to keep at least the lower part of their spectrum mono
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 10 Oct, 2014
ok cheers mate!
- KVRAF
- 5813 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
This can mean different things and both are true
Typically a bass is played as a monophonic sound, often also with legato (this gliding sound from one note to the next). So you don't need a polyphonic bass sound (you don't play more than one note at the same time).
So very often bass sounds are monophonic.
The other thing is, that a bass works the best as mono (audio) without stereo information. Because such deep frequencies cannot be localized in the stereo field very well. Not to mention that most listeners expect that a bass comes from the center and not from the right or left in the stereo field.
But this "mono" sound is not a rule set in stone. Sometimes a bass is thickened with a bit chorus, a small delay, sometimes also some micropitch-shifting where the pseudo bass sounds are panned a bit left and right from the original bass. So it's not a 100% mono sound anymore but it doesn't sound like stereo because the panning is only very small...
Typically a bass is played as a monophonic sound, often also with legato (this gliding sound from one note to the next). So you don't need a polyphonic bass sound (you don't play more than one note at the same time).
So very often bass sounds are monophonic.
The other thing is, that a bass works the best as mono (audio) without stereo information. Because such deep frequencies cannot be localized in the stereo field very well. Not to mention that most listeners expect that a bass comes from the center and not from the right or left in the stereo field.
But this "mono" sound is not a rule set in stone. Sometimes a bass is thickened with a bit chorus, a small delay, sometimes also some micropitch-shifting where the pseudo bass sounds are panned a bit left and right from the original bass. So it's not a 100% mono sound anymore but it doesn't sound like stereo because the panning is only very small...
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- KVRAF
- 8406 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
Now that we have cd's and MP3's, the bass can get jiggy with it!
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- KVRer
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- 28 posts since 10 Oct, 2014
ok thanks for the good answer
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- 8406 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
You, too. Yours is way more intelligent than mine. i cant even speaka no gud
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
curious, at what freq would you sum to mono ?
I hava device in my LIVE template's master bus "Bass Mono Maker" that does just that. Currently, it's set at 200cycles . . .
I hava device in my LIVE template's master bus "Bass Mono Maker" that does just that. Currently, it's set at 200cycles . . .
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
IIRC the bass should slowly fall apart into mono at about 1300 Hz. This value comes from max wavelength equal to distance between human ears. This is gradual process, you can't have it mono at 200 Hz and 100% stereo at 205 Hz.
A good reality check is if your output sounds the same at stereo and switched to mono.
A good reality check is if your output sounds the same at stereo and switched to mono.
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