Cubase style offline VST plugin processing in other DAWs...?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 489 posts since 6 Feb, 2010
Is there any other DAWs where you can do Cubase style offline processing?
What I mean, in Cubase you can go to Audio menu --> plugin --> VST plugin, then Preview / Process and the audio clip is processed offline with the plug. You can do the same also in Audio Pool directly to the audio file.
I think somebody claimed that you can do this in Studio One, but I I did not find it from there.
Question 2: When doing this in Cubase and pressing Preview button, it mutes everything else than the clip with processing. Is it possible to do this so that the project in background is playing so that you can preview the processing in context before processing it...?
What I mean, in Cubase you can go to Audio menu --> plugin --> VST plugin, then Preview / Process and the audio clip is processed offline with the plug. You can do the same also in Audio Pool directly to the audio file.
I think somebody claimed that you can do this in Studio One, but I I did not find it from there.
Question 2: When doing this in Cubase and pressing Preview button, it mutes everything else than the clip with processing. Is it possible to do this so that the project in background is playing so that you can preview the processing in context before processing it...?
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- KVRAF
- 4511 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
different DAWs have different solutions to doing this : Ableton Live has dummy clips to mimic, Bitwig has hybrid tracks to able to add different effects to the audio and MIDIs ( http://websta.me/p/928931077012451742_47172427 ) inside a track yepp S1 also knows it
it's on the left side : event fx (with render)
it's on the left side : event fx (with render)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 489 posts since 6 Feb, 2010
Can you give me more details what do you mean? Live is my main DAW and this is functionality I really would like to have there..xbitz wrote: Ableton Live has dummy clips to mimic
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- KVRAF
- 4511 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
from 3:30golemus wrote:Can you give me more details what do you mean? Live is my main DAW and this is functionality I really would like to have there..xbitz wrote: Ableton Live has dummy clips to mimic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfDiIHnJHc
and the whole second part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naxqgC3L3EM
so AL is quite versatile u can add different FXs to the same source on)offline too depends on your needs, if u need more resource u can also use http://www.maxforlive.com/library/devic ... witch-midi to on/off whole device tracks
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 489 posts since 6 Feb, 2010
This is not offline processing plugs will stay there and consume CPU+RAM. To achieve the same result as in Cubase "Audio -- Plugin -- VST-plugin -- Process", you would need large amount of mouseclicks.xbitz wrote: from 3:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfDiIHnJHc
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- KVRAF
- 1524 posts since 6 Nov, 2012
Indeed. It is not what OP is talking about.golemus wrote:This is not offline processing plugs will stay there and consume CPU+RAM. To achieve the same result as in Cubase "Audio -- Plugin -- VST-plugin -- Process", you would need large amount of mouseclicks.xbitz wrote: from 3:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfDiIHnJHc
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 5 Apr, 2014
In Reaper you can do it Cubase-style plus some added versatility: can keep eventFX online and working or render it as an alternative take, easily switching between processed and unprocessed version. What i disliked about Cubase on that matter is that rolling back to unprocessed version requires lotsa clicking and you can't change your mind. Also, as you mentioned, you can't listen in context. Plus - no host bpm/sync for these plug-ins. And some plug-ins just refuse to work properly that way.
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
FL sort of does. It does in-project rendering of a selected mixer channel with couple clicks.
Make a selection, 'arm' a mixer channel, render, and the wav is placed in the project over top of what just rendered.
It does not auto-mute/delete the stuff that was processed though.
So, you have to manually turn things off or delete them, and in the case of deleting, manually save a new project file in case you want to go backwards, etc..
Make a selection, 'arm' a mixer channel, render, and the wav is placed in the project over top of what just rendered.
It does not auto-mute/delete the stuff that was processed though.
So, you have to manually turn things off or delete them, and in the case of deleting, manually save a new project file in case you want to go backwards, etc..
- Beware the Quoth
- 33182 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Sonar and ProTools have always done this (PT via the Audiosuite menu; not all plugins turn up here, though, AFAIR). ProTools has the advantage of actually making it a new in-place clip, and automatically naming it after the clip it was derived from.golemus wrote:Is there any other DAWs where you can do Cubase style offline processing?
What I mean, in Cubase you can go to Audio menu --> plugin --> VST plugin, then Preview / Process and the audio clip is processed offline with the plug. You can do the same also in Audio Pool directly to the audio file.
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- KVRian
- 1156 posts since 10 Apr, 2006
DP can do this as well (and still even has a destructive editor!).
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- KVRist
- 116 posts since 13 Feb, 2006
In Ableton: Assuming you're starting with an audio track, first add the VST to the end of that track's processing chain. Preview and tweak as needed. Then right-click on the track name, "Freeze track", then right-click again and "Flatten track." Now you have an audio track with the VST effect permanently applied to it. (To keep the old one too, duplicate the track first)
- KVRAF
- 9578 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Or you can just freeze and ctrl drag the frozen clip to another slot or channel.mmoncur wrote:In Ableton: Assuming you're starting with an audio track, first add the VST to the end of that track's processing chain. Preview and tweak as needed. Then right-click on the track name, "Freeze track", then right-click again and "Flatten track." Now you have an audio track with the VST effect permanently applied to it. (To keep the old one too, duplicate the track first)
Unfreeze the original track as required.
Tracktion has the excellent Freeze Point feature that allows you to freeze at any point in your effects chain and you can render with many options including replace or to new track
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