What reverb plugins can morph like Blackhole?
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
valhallashimmer and ubermod.
- KVRist
- 217 posts since 4 Jan, 2013
Yeah, In the preset browser you can morph the settings.Naenyn wrote:UVI Sparkverb maybe? Its preset browser is pretty slick.
But I think we can't automate it.
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- KVRAF
- 10310 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
MeldaProduction: ABCD morphing
Morph button
Morph button lets you morph between A, B, C and D settings. Morphing is only possible with automatable/modulable parameters. That does include most of the parameters however. When you click this button, an X/Y graph is shown allowing you to drag the position indicator to any position between the letters A, B, C and D. The c loser you drag the indicator to letter 'A' for example, the closer the actual settings are to preset A.
Note that this will overwrite and change the preset that you have selected, so it is best to select a new preset e.g. 'E', then use the morphing method. This way you will define the settings ABCD, morph between them, and store the result in 'E' without any modification of the original A, B, C and D presets.
The ABCD morphing can be automated, however this is not then available as a specific controller, instead the changed parameters of the plugin are being automated. Therefore if one of the ABCD presets is changed after morphing has been automated, it will make no difference to the recorded automation.
- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
A lot of reverbs don't morph smoothly - one that does is u-he ZRev - I made a bunch of morphing patches for it, each with 8 saved states, in NI Kore 2:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/564 ... Morphs.zip
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/564 ... Morphs.zip
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- KVRAF
- 11184 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
+1 for Valhala Shimmer
''Valhalla Shimmer has been designed to be tweaked in real time. All of the sliders have a smoothed response, to avoid
clicks when changing settings or automating the controls. At the same time, the algorithm has been highly optimized,
so you get a huge reverb sound without straining your CPU''
I tried it against Blackhole demo and ended up buying Shimmer ($50)
Try the free demo https://valhalladsp.com/shop/plugins/valhalla-shimmer/
''Valhalla Shimmer has been designed to be tweaked in real time. All of the sliders have a smoothed response, to avoid
clicks when changing settings or automating the controls. At the same time, the algorithm has been highly optimized,
so you get a huge reverb sound without straining your CPU''
I tried it against Blackhole demo and ended up buying Shimmer ($50)
Try the free demo https://valhalladsp.com/shop/plugins/valhalla-shimmer/
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- KVRian
- 963 posts since 29 Sep, 2006
I think both the MeldaProduction IR Verb and Algo can do some morphing.DarkStar wrote:MeldaProduction: ABCD morphing
Morph button
Morph button lets you morph between A, B, C and D settings. Morphing is only possible with automatable/modulable parameters. That does include most of the parameters however. When you click this button, an X/Y graph is shown allowing you to drag the position indicator to any position between the letters A, B, C and D. The c loser you drag the indicator to letter 'A' for example, the closer the actual settings are to preset A.
Note that this will overwrite and change the preset that you have selected, so it is best to select a new preset e.g. 'E', then use the morphing method. This way you will define the settings ABCD, morph between them, and store the result in 'E' without any modification of the original A, B, C and D presets.
The ABCD morphing can be automated, however this is not then available as a specific controller, instead the changed parameters of the plugin are being automated. Therefore if one of the ABCD presets is changed after morphing has been automated, it will make no difference to the recorded automation.
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- KVRist
- 450 posts since 5 Oct, 2011 from Deep in the jungle
I was wondering the same thing a while back so I went through all my reverbs and found that most weren't any good for morphing. If I remember rightly, D16 Toraverb responded smoothly.
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- KVRAF
- 10310 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Or use the Multiparameters / Banks mode in the Melda plug-ins:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8&t=435490
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8&t=435490
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- KVRian
- 646 posts since 22 Jun, 2003 from Germany
How can you morph from one setting to another with Valhallashimmer?Echoes in the Attic wrote:valhallashimmer and ubermod.
I can't see this option!
Maybe there is some confusion, Blackhole has the ability with only one ribbon controller to morph all the parameter at once (10 buttons) from one setting to another.
- KVRist
- 242 posts since 1 Jun, 2011
I guess it's done with automation.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
Oh yeah I didn't know about the morphing of all settings at once. Thought the OP meant smooth adjustments of parameters, which is rare.teacue wrote:How can you morph from one setting to another with Valhallashimmer?Echoes in the Attic wrote:valhallashimmer and ubermod.
I can't see this option!
Maybe there is some confusion, Blackhole has the ability with only one ribbon controller to morph all the parameter at once (10 buttons) from one setting to another.
- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
As I said, ZRev can morph all params at once in realtime, but when used in NI Kore 2. It doesn't have a morph slider like in Blackhole but in Kore you have even more morphability as you can morph between 8 different saved states, not just 2 poles. I mean to try the same sort of thing with Shimmer and see if I can recreate some Blackhole presets this way.stikygum wrote:So do Melda ABCD, Sparkverb, D16 Toraverb and Uhe Zrev all morph multi parameters at the same time? If not, then it would just be an automatable plugin.
Sparkverb's morphing is different, they have taken the idea of a patchcloud that is also in some Arturia plugins, so you can morph between specific presets this way.