Drum glue plug?
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- KVRian
- 779 posts since 21 Sep, 2008
IMO you're looking the wrong way if you want to get the "glue" you're talking about from plugins.
If you want cohesive drum sound, look at the way you record drums and treat them in the mix.
Firstly, don't try to excessively gate and clean things up. Secondly, use less mics and rely more on room/OHs (you can try the so-called "Glynn Johns" technique). And pay attention to the drum sound itself -- tuning, dampening etc.
If you want cohesive drum sound, look at the way you record drums and treat them in the mix.
Firstly, don't try to excessively gate and clean things up. Secondly, use less mics and rely more on room/OHs (you can try the so-called "Glynn Johns" technique). And pay attention to the drum sound itself -- tuning, dampening etc.
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 31 Mar, 2014
It's not exactly "subtle", but another plugin I like for a drum bus that I haven't seen yet is this free ensemble for Reaktor, Magnitude: http://boscomac.free.fr/?p=magnitude
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- KVRAF
- 2448 posts since 12 Sep, 2004
I know the request was for "not compression", but give IK Buss Compressor a demo. Depending on the overall drum sound you're looking for, it can give some dimension.
For more pure harmonic smearing, saturation, and the like... a tapesim (aforementioned tonebooster's is cheap), analog bus emu (aforementioned satson is cheap) can also give good results... or something straight and to the point... like http://www.voxengo.com/product/varisaturator/ or http://www.voxengo.com/product/warmifier/ ... or general purpose like http://www.voxengo.com/product/drumformer/ ...
Also, check out dynamic EQs... e.g. http://www.voxengo.com/product/glisseq/
For more pure harmonic smearing, saturation, and the like... a tapesim (aforementioned tonebooster's is cheap), analog bus emu (aforementioned satson is cheap) can also give good results... or something straight and to the point... like http://www.voxengo.com/product/varisaturator/ or http://www.voxengo.com/product/warmifier/ ... or general purpose like http://www.voxengo.com/product/drumformer/ ...
Also, check out dynamic EQs... e.g. http://www.voxengo.com/product/glisseq/
You need to limit that rez, bro.
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- KVRist
- 419 posts since 7 Apr, 2010
Can anyone shed any insight on the how's and why's of why drum buss glueing works ? As a new'ish producer I am not sure what exactly I am supposed to be hearing and really what the effect chain or set up for the drum buss should be to get the best results. Are there any tutorials out there. At the moment i own komplete so I've tried the NI solid buss comp, but the results were meh.
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- KVRist
- 167 posts since 21 Jan, 2013
it's like taking a bunch of cookie dough and pushing it through a mold
you are shaping the contour of all of the sounds together
you are shaping the contour of all of the sounds together
- KVRAF
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
Supercharger GT, although is a paid alternative, it's pretty good.
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
Meh...they're kinda lackluster in my opinion.Ah_Dziz wrote:Grab all the variety of sound freebies. They'll glue everything up real nicely.
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- KVRAF
- 4065 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
If you want to mush sounds together but for some reason don't want to use compression and also have a budget of zero they are completely up to the job. Other than synth maker being a bit crashy from time to time I find these are probably the best freeware available for adding a little bit of fuzzy goodness to a sound. Basically the OP is limiting himself to various waveshapers and eqs to "glue" his drums together. I personally would skip the fancy GUIs and magic analog style plugins and just use a straightforward waveshaper but lots of people want something subtle that has a shiny interface and does some kind of magical distorting that is poorly explained. And for the latter, VOS is the best stuff going in freeland.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 28 Aug, 2014
In my opinion Tonebooster's Reelbus 3 glues nicely:
http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-reelbus/
But compression often sounds better in my ears for gluing drums, by purpose saturators always 'mush up' the sound a bit. (And who doesn't use compression on drums anyway?)
I've also heard good things about FieldingDSP's reviver but don't own it.
http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-reelbus/
But compression often sounds better in my ears for gluing drums, by purpose saturators always 'mush up' the sound a bit. (And who doesn't use compression on drums anyway?)
I've also heard good things about FieldingDSP's reviver but don't own it.