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Libertine Lush · Post by **Libertine Lush** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:06 pm

I am curious to know what everyone thinks about the three new synths introduced in 9.5—most of all, would you consider using them over other comparable synths?

I haven't had a chance to check them out myself, as my Push 2 is awaiting arrival, however, I'm fairly impressed by the short samples on the official site. The Bass synth, in particular, really sounds promising.

Thanks for sharing any perspectives.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:24 am

Do they still use only that native ui strip at the bottom? For all of Abletons' stuff that is the worst bit, or at least it used to be. Any progress on that front?

Libertine Lush · Post by **Libertine Lush** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:05 pm

braj wrote:Do they still use only that native ui strip at the bottom? For all of Abletons' stuff that is the worst bit, or at least it used to be. Any progress on that front?

I'm a new Live convert, so I'm not sure what UI element you're describing or if it can be configured.

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:26 pm

Yup, they're M4L devices that fit into the standard Live GUI. Ie, they fit into the device window below the session/arrangement view. Don't really have a problem with it myself, it's actually quite handy as you see everything right in front of you without having to open a window.
As for the question, I didn't really had a chance yet to play with them...

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:41 pm

Just tried out Bass yesterday (finally got around to updating Max), and it's pretty powerful. Nothing I don't already have elsewhere, but it's got some real heft and gnarl, quite a contender, especially for those starting out with few synths in their portfolio. Anyone with Diva, Monark, TAL or others won't need to give it a second look, however.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:56 pm

Forgot they were even there.

ImNotDedYet · Post by **ImNotDedYet** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:54 pm

They're actually pretty cool. I'm not much of a Live synth user, but I could see these occasionally making their way into my stuff.

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:32 pm

braj wrote:Do they still use only that native ui strip at the bottom? For all of Abletons' stuff that is the worst bit, or at least it used to be. Any progress on that front?

That's the part I love more about Live, I hate having to close/open windows all the time.

~Pd~ · Post by **~Pd~** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:47 pm

It'd be great if they could incorporate an integrated "pop-up" view for Max instruments in Live, like they do for the waveform display in Simpler.

There's already a popup window method in Max but it isn't integrated into Live's panes the way Simpler is.

I think the new Max synths sound superb. Also check out Kasio by Oli Larkin, similar to the VirtualCZ he did as a VSTi.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:58 pm

~Pd~ wrote:It'd be great if they could incorporate an integrated "pop-up" view for Max instruments in Live, like they do for the waveform display in Simpler.

There's already a popup window method in Max but it isn't integrated into Live's panes the way Simpler is.

I think the new Max synths sound superb. Also check out Kasio by Oli Larkin, similar to the VirtualCZ he did as a VSTi.

I think if they could do that with all of their bundled synths and devices as makes sense. I loved the EQ for that. I remember trying to program Analog and just feeling the gui was too small. Imagine if they were able to use that space to put every control up on screen, big and inviting. Anyhow, so much for how they look, how do they sound?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:04 pm

Kind of boring uninspiring interface, makes most Rack Extensions look like works of art in comparison. Can't Ableton try to go outside their rigid design standard sooner rather than later

ksandvik · Post by **ksandvik** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:14 pm

I don't mind a standard UI that fits into a specific corner -- you learn it quickly and one less thing to worry about.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:23 pm

Don't forget the new Drum Synth. From a brief session with it I was pretty impressed. The new Bass and Poly Synths sound good too.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:35 pm

I really like ABleton plugins for clarity - everything is in place and you know what to expect from it.

New synths sound OK and are easy to operate, though I didn't use them in a production yet. But someday will have to try

Libertine Lush · Post by **Libertine Lush** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:22 pm

Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts on them so far.

thecontrolcentre wrote:Don't forget the new Drum Synth. From a brief session with it I was pretty impressed. The new Bass and Poly Synths sound good too.

Yes! The kick drum. Looking forward to trying that out too.

Thoughts on the 3 new Live 9.5 synths (Poli, Bass, Multi)