A high pass in front of the lowpass for a powerfull bass. What is the explanation on this?
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
"Can you give us a little production tip or do you have a secret function in one of your plug-ins?
In any synth, try a highpass filter in front of the common lowpass. Keep the highpass at a very low frequency, add – if possible – a little resonance. As paradox as this sounds, that can boost your bass big time!"
http://www.noizefield.com/interviews/ta ... kmann-u-he
Urs talks about it on other topics too.
Just forgive me if I'm being a bit naive, it works, but someone can explain the reason? I'm failing to see.
In any synth, try a highpass filter in front of the common lowpass. Keep the highpass at a very low frequency, add – if possible – a little resonance. As paradox as this sounds, that can boost your bass big time!"
http://www.noizefield.com/interviews/ta ... kmann-u-he
Urs talks about it on other topics too.
Just forgive me if I'm being a bit naive, it works, but someone can explain the reason? I'm failing to see.
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 17 Jun, 2012
IIUC most filters have a 'bump' at the center/crossover frequency, or just the other side of it. The resonance increases this.
So a HighPass set at 50Hz would filter below that, and there would be a bump at roughly 60Hz-ish.
That's my late-night not-very-technical explanation. I do know it works though- quite well!
So a HighPass set at 50Hz would filter below that, and there would be a bump at roughly 60Hz-ish.
That's my late-night not-very-technical explanation. I do know it works though- quite well!
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- KVRAF
- 2111 posts since 25 Jun, 2008 from Montreal, Canada
Exactly like Neuropath said. The nice thing about the filter is it can follow the note, compared to a EQ boost. So you put the filter (100% key follow) where you like, put some resonance to boost and that's it.
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- KVRist
- 426 posts since 27 Sep, 2005
It isn't just some bass boost from resonance, there is also some phase distortion from highpass that colours a sound a bit after it passes through the second filter: most modern filters have a non-linearities of some sort (modeled in different ways, simple post-waveshaping in the simplest cases) which colour the sound affected by distorted phase (due to highpassing) resulting in a more "analogue" feel and bass-booming.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
- KVRAF
- 3060 posts since 10 Nov, 2013 from Germany
Also I think removing the non-audible freq range (0-20 hz) gives some room for the audible bass range.
But be aware that for some styles (EDM, cinema) also the sub freqs are needed.
But be aware that for some styles (EDM, cinema) also the sub freqs are needed.
- KVRian
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