Pretentious Dreck
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 25 posts since 5 Jun, 2007
One of the things I love to hate most in music are lyrics that are passed off as meaningful and deep, but are in fact cringe-inducing spasms of pretentious melodramatic angst-laden pap straight out of overwrought indulgences in delusionsal self-importance and profundity (sort of like that last sentence).
All of Knights in White Satin (including that god-awful "poem" read against straining strings at the conclusion).
Most of the Yes output falls into this category. "Time is time in time with your time as is news....is captured for the queen to use. Dittit-dittit-dittit-dittit, etc." Thanks, Jon. That was really metaphorical and deep there. Go back to drinking your bongwater now, k?
Then there is Meatloaf's touching ballad which is a direct quote from his car. "Objects in the rear-view mirror might appear closer than they are." Wow, Meaty! That's some heavy shit, there brah. I hope Plymouth doesn't sue you for copyright infringement.
Let's kill a real sacred cow, shall we? Stairway to Motherf**cking Heaven. "And if you listen very hard the tune will come to you at last. When all are one and one is all, to be a rock and not to roll."
Well, okay so it DOES rhyme. And if you are hanging out on the beach with Jimi and the boys getting high, it might sound like a really nice ending to a song. And after all, someone's BOUND to think it means SOMETHING.
Sometime the artist isn't taking themselves seriously and they are simply trolling the audience. As Bob Dylan said when he wrote a new song, "I wonder what they'll say THIS one means."
All of Knights in White Satin (including that god-awful "poem" read against straining strings at the conclusion).
Most of the Yes output falls into this category. "Time is time in time with your time as is news....is captured for the queen to use. Dittit-dittit-dittit-dittit, etc." Thanks, Jon. That was really metaphorical and deep there. Go back to drinking your bongwater now, k?
Then there is Meatloaf's touching ballad which is a direct quote from his car. "Objects in the rear-view mirror might appear closer than they are." Wow, Meaty! That's some heavy shit, there brah. I hope Plymouth doesn't sue you for copyright infringement.
Let's kill a real sacred cow, shall we? Stairway to Motherf**cking Heaven. "And if you listen very hard the tune will come to you at last. When all are one and one is all, to be a rock and not to roll."
Well, okay so it DOES rhyme. And if you are hanging out on the beach with Jimi and the boys getting high, it might sound like a really nice ending to a song. And after all, someone's BOUND to think it means SOMETHING.
Sometime the artist isn't taking themselves seriously and they are simply trolling the audience. As Bob Dylan said when he wrote a new song, "I wonder what they'll say THIS one means."
- KVRAF
- 2185 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa
Excellent!
Let's not crucify this lad too soon--he makes some valid points. And more important, he has a sense of humor about it!
Steve
Let's not crucify this lad too soon--he makes some valid points. And more important, he has a sense of humor about it!
Steve
Here's some of my stuff: https://soundcloud.com/shadowsoflife. If you hear something you like, I'm looking for collaborators.
- KVRAF
- 1986 posts since 29 Apr, 2010 from NYC
i am 100% on board with this!
this song right here...sends me into an instant rage because its such utter drivel disguised as some kind of deep meaningful, soul touching wisdom. i mean...half the time one line doesnt have any relation to the previous one other than a nonsensical conjunction, and the other half of the time the line just doesnt make any sense.
i hate this song with the searing white hot passion of a thousand suns. i seriously want to hurt people when i hear it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8UeeIAJ0a0
this song right here...sends me into an instant rage because its such utter drivel disguised as some kind of deep meaningful, soul touching wisdom. i mean...half the time one line doesnt have any relation to the previous one other than a nonsensical conjunction, and the other half of the time the line just doesnt make any sense.
i hate this song with the searing white hot passion of a thousand suns. i seriously want to hurt people when i hear it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8UeeIAJ0a0
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Curiously, just yesterday I listened to Nights in White Satin for the first time ever. I was on a retro kick on Spotify, and listened to Your Wildest Dreams, which is the only Moody Blues song I actually know and like. But I had exactly the same reaction to NiWS... What the heck is this pretentious drivel?? It makes me think of Spinal Tap.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 25 posts since 5 Jun, 2007
Wow, good one. "And you can't fight the tears that ain't coming, Or the moment of truth in your lieschaosWyrM wrote:i am 100% on board with this!
this song right here...sends me into an instant rage because its such utter drivel disguised as some kind of deep meaningful, soul touching wisdom. i mean...half the time one line doesnt have any relation to the previous one other than a nonsensical conjunction, and the other half of the time the line just doesnt make any sense.
i hate this song with the searing white hot passion of a thousand suns. i seriously want to hurt people when i hear it.
When everything feels like the movies, Yeah you bleed just to know you're alive"
Liek...omigod, it's like he knows my inner soul! That's so, like, all meaningful and stuff. Every day I have tears that don't come that I, like, can't fight. because the my life, is like, like a movie. So, then there's nothing left to do but, like, bleed. At least I have my Starbucks half-caf mocachino with 6 extra pumps!
- KVRAF
- 7363 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Mostly it's grimdark lyrics that I'm getting tired of. I get it: your soul is in agony, everything is torment, you're eternally cursed, etc. In other words, your girlfriend left you (probably because you're so self-absorbed and pretentious). Have a cookie.
Or Front Line Assembly, who I used to like. War, death, blood, poison, despair, murder, fear, pollution, violence, stepping on Lego bricks, some more war, etc. Now with extra wubwubwub.
Or Front Line Assembly, who I used to like. War, death, blood, poison, despair, murder, fear, pollution, violence, stepping on Lego bricks, some more war, etc. Now with extra wubwubwub.
- KVRAF
- 1793 posts since 9 Apr, 2011
I heard this the other day and my ears bled. This is the good stuff: a nu-metal band covering Simon & Garfunkel by auto tuning their whining over corny string arrangements. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZDqVdGGrjE
I'm just gonna leave this here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-kHB2fWUS8
I'm just gonna leave this here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-kHB2fWUS8
"musician."
http://soundcloud.com/nine-of-kings
http://soundcloud.com/nine-of-kings
- KVRian
- 1268 posts since 12 Aug, 2004
After presenting all these examples of "offending" lyrics I am curious to hear lyrics written by the posters or at least lyrics that they "approve" of.
What "I love to hate" is that anything that expresses emotion or is inspirational is "pretentious", uncool. What is hip is: negative,sarcastic,cynical,snide,snarky, pessimistic,bitter, and "throwing shade".
What "I love to hate" is that anything that expresses emotion or is inspirational is "pretentious", uncool. What is hip is: negative,sarcastic,cynical,snide,snarky, pessimistic,bitter, and "throwing shade".
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35189 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
It's "Nights In White Satin" not Knights ... and it's basically a love song. Seems to me you want to read more into it than is actually there.Sandy wrote:
All of Knights in White Satin (including that god-awful "poem" read against straining strings at the conclusion).
- Beware the Quoth
- 33175 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
It was also written when Justin Hayward was 19. Fundamentally disturbing that a teenager might ever actually write somewhat gawky, awkward or purple lyrics. A spell in the army would have sorted that out.thecontrolcentre wrote:It's "Nights In White Satin" not Knights ... and it's basically a love song.Sandy wrote:
All of Knights in White Satin (including that god-awful "poem" read against straining strings at the conclusion).
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35189 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
It's often mis-understood as a song about tripping on LSD too ... usually by 19 year olds on LSDwhyterabbyt wrote:It was also written when Justin Hayward was 19. Fundamentally disturbing that a teenager might ever actually write somewhat gawky, awkward or purple lyrics. A spell in the army would have sorted that out.thecontrolcentre wrote:It's "Nights In White Satin" not Knights ... and it's basically a love song.Sandy wrote:
All of Knights in White Satin (including that god-awful "poem" read against straining strings at the conclusion).
- KVRian
- 1268 posts since 12 Aug, 2004
Which army? Salvation, ISIS, or Kiss? (see my previous post)whyterabbyt wrote:It was also written when Justin Hayward was 19. Fundamentally disturbing that a teenager might ever actually write somewhat gawky, awkward or purple lyrics. A spell in the army would have sorted that out.thecontrolcentre wrote:It's "Nights In White Satin" not Knights ... and it's basically a love song.Sandy wrote:
All of Knights in White Satin (including that god-awful "poem" read against straining strings at the conclusion).
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35189 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
BritishKarma_tba wrote:Which army? Salvation, ISIS, or Kiss?whyterabbyt wrote:It was also written when Justin Hayward was 19. Fundamentally disturbing that a teenager might ever actually write somewhat gawky, awkward or purple lyrics. A spell in the army would have sorted that out.thecontrolcentre wrote:It's "Nights In White Satin" not Knights ... and it's basically a love song.Sandy wrote:
All of Knights in White Satin (including that god-awful "poem" read against straining strings at the conclusion).
- Beware the Quoth
- 33175 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscript ... ed_KingdomKarma_tba wrote:Which army? Salvation, ISIS, or Kiss? (see my previous post)whyterabbyt wrote:It was also written when Justin Hayward was 19. Fundamentally disturbing that a teenager might ever actually write somewhat gawky, awkward or purple lyrics. A spell in the army would have sorted that out.thecontrolcentre wrote:It's "Nights In White Satin" not Knights ... and it's basically a love song.Sandy wrote:
All of Knights in White Satin (including that god-awful "poem" read against straining strings at the conclusion).
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
- KVRian
- 1268 posts since 12 Aug, 2004
That would've done the trick...strip him of his individuality,teach him to kill,send him off to die.thecontrolcentre wrote:BritishKarma_tba wrote:Which army? Salvation, ISIS, or Kiss?whyterabbyt wrote:It was also written when Justin Hayward was 19. Fundamentally disturbing that a teenager might ever actually write somewhat gawky, awkward or purple lyrics. A spell in the army would have sorted that out.thecontrolcentre wrote:It's "Nights In White Satin" not Knights ... and it's basically a love song.Sandy wrote:
All of Knights in White Satin (including that god-awful "poem" read against straining strings at the conclusion).