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recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:15 am

Instead of discussing this very improtant topic in each and every thread related to Vengeance and other vendors who use ilock, may we have this thread for all copy protection talks?

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:12 pm

A couple of thoughts/questions (at leats one of them apepars in almost any copy protection related talk)

Does the copy protection scheme influence your buying decisions?

In the grand scheme of things, do you believe that the "crackability" influences the developer's income and if it does, then in what direction? While I'd never advocate warez, I don't believe that things are always as simple as "no cracks equals to better income from sales".

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:33 pm

Serial is the easiest and can't go wrong. I can always store my serial on my own storage and make sure it will work even if the company itself dissapears.

I recently got some iLok-protected plugins. Once I dealt with it, it works - but that doesn't mean it won't fail in the future

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:41 pm

Naah, on second taught, tired from this stuff, gonna pass.

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:58 pm

Voted for individual package, serial and keyfile. The rest of the copy protections are more or less a pain in the back for the user. And the fact that I have to pay for a dongle is infuriating. But I did it anyway (my DAW is offline)...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:07 pm

Prefer as a customer: No copy protection at all. Probably the best copy protection for the company to make sure they aren't warezed,and able to provide us with good software in the future: Probably dongle. I don't think anyone really likes, or prefer a copy protection. I prefer to leave my house door open too, yet the world is evil out there, so I rather lock it to not get robbed.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:07 pm

I would have added software licensing centre (eg NI service centre and Arturia centre) because although they are in some respects like CR they work in practice very differently - eg they seem to be immune to hardware changes like new motherboards. CR is by far the worse but I like NI and Arturia's system, particularly NI's as I've never had a problem with it and it manages installs and updates too. I prefer dongles to serials in that they keep all licenses in one place, you don't have to hunt around for a serial through emails if your are less organised like me - prefer iLok overall as it also has an online backup available and transfers are easier. HD licenses I avoid as they are too vulnerable.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:15 pm

aMUSEd wrote:I would have added software licensing centre (eg NI service centre and Arturia centre)

Added this opition and now all the poll results are cancelled ( I wasn't aware this should happen

)

Feel free to re-vote

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:17 pm

It would be cool if they would all use the same dongle protection though. One uses eLicenser, the other ilok, Reason users yet another dongle system... In the worst case you have 3 different dongles to plug in.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:19 pm

I do also like the 'Download package created individually for each customer' as again no serial to hunt for, but I guess that option may be quite vulnerable to credit card theft which is possibly why it's not used that much.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:31 pm

A similar poll was done last year

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=442379

A clear winner then was serial (or keyfile which is basically the same thing).

Now we shall see if it has changed since then, everybody now prefer iLok

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:52 pm

I would have voted for dongle. But dongle is not enough it seems. I was thinking of saving up to buy Cubase 7 back then but 8 now? I changed my mind because I found out that the Cubase they sell at the local store(s) in my city won't work unless I register it online. Dongle + registration. Pfui.

Why can't I just go in a store, buy something, go home, and have the thing working without having to be online. Wasn't it always like that before. That old method doesn't work anymore? It should. No? Really?

ablaut · Post by **ablaut** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:57 pm

I like the way Reaper does it: fully functional demo, and add a serial when you purchase a license. It's one of the most user-friendly ways.

Anything that requires a dongle or some invasive setup like ilok is just not going to get my money.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:59 pm

If you've ever had to re-install hundreds of plug-ins, many of them with different copy protections, you'll appreciate iLok for its simplicity.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:53 pm

Aloysius wrote:If you've ever had to re-install hundreds of plug-ins, many of them with different copy protections, you'll appreciate iLok for its simplicity.

I also don't quite get the hate iLok receives here. I like it better than eLicenser, and you might not even need a dongle at all, depending on the level of ptotection chose. And the license transfer seems to be easy peasy too, with a transfer fee involved though.

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Which copy protection scheme do you prefer?

Which copy protection scheme do you prefer?