KVR Audio

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:15 pm

i have 2 preset libraries from HGS but where shall i put the SAMPLE folder in?

Steainberg sucks so much a** with their stupid locations.... i found the preset folder itself which is just burdened and cannot be moved (lol) but i couldnt find the samples folder yet. cause when i load a user preset it doesnt find the sample itself. and i dont want to import for every preset its sample manually!

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:18 pm

From readme for my Excursions bank

This is the path on Mac

Users/yourusername/Documents/Steinberg/Padshop/Samples

Note from Steinberg Forum re Windows 7

To install for Windows 7-users that has installed Padshop Pro with the default path settings:

Place the PRESET-folder here:
C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Documents\VST3 Presets\Steinberg Media Technologies\Padshop\

Place the SAMPLES-folder here:
C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Documents\Steinberg\Padshop\Samples\

(notice that Windows shows the "Documents" folder as "My Documents" when using Explorer or GUI).

NB User folders for Padshop are only created if you have already saved a preset before. So if you have never created your own preset before, using your own wav's/samples, the folders will not exist. You have to create a preset with a new wav/sample manually, before copying/moving the above folders - Or you could just make the folder yourself

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:43 pm

aMUSEd wrote:From readme for my Excursions bank

This is the path on Mac

Users/yourusername/Documents/Steinberg/Padshop/Samples

Note from Steinberg Forum re Windows 7

To install for Windows 7-users that has installed Padshop Pro with the default path settings:

Place the PRESET-folder here:
C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Documents\VST3 Presets\Steinberg Media Technologies\Padshop\

Place the SAMPLES-folder here:
C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Documents\Steinberg\Padshop\Samples\

(notice that Windows shows the "Documents" folder as "My Documents" when using Explorer or GUI).

NB User folders for Padshop are only created if you have already saved a preset before. So if you have never created your own preset before, using your own wav's/samples, the folders will not exist. You have to create a preset with a new wav/sample manually, before copying/moving the above folders - Or you could just make the folder yourself

wtf, maybe next time please make more subfolders and more fiel locations steinberg

thanks, imma check!

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:52 pm

found, just stupid locations + so idiotic you cannot move the preset&sample folders. steainberg is such a crap company for this, and no you cannot defend this shit! even if they have good produucts, this needs to be shouted at and attacked. i begin to think to sell padshop.

mholloway · Post by **mholloway** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:00 pm

Steinberg is the absolute worst when it comes to organization of content, especially user-related content, and their policy on factory content is from the dark ages.

Cubase is the only DAW on the market, afaik, that restricts / blocks use of factory audio content outside of the program itself. In ableton, for example, any drum hits (.wav files) used in a Drum Rack can also be freely grabbed, copied, moved, used elsewhere. Steinberg, otoh, apparently fear that their paying user-base will be ripping them off and selling their samples as packs online or some other nefarious behavior, so they lock and hide these content folders. Like that groove agent drum? Well, it's useable only from Groove Agent, yay, and how dare you think about finding it to use elsewhere! (As if we don't know how to just sample it, anyway if we REALLY wanted to....)

It's a weird, old-school, fear-based approach that values the Company over the (paying) User at every turn.

And it's a huge part of why I ditched Cubase a long while ago and use Live now for everything.

(and to be fair, I'll note that my knowledge of this goes back to Cubase 6 or 7 at latest, I haven't touched it since then, but I doubt much has changed in this area, knowing Steinberg!)

-M

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:02 pm

You can always move those folders out on a different drive then symlink it back to the locations that Steiny requires...

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:14 pm

EvilDragon wrote:You can always move those folders out on a different drive then symlink it back to the locations that Steiny requires...

sure but we have 2017 and so many other companies/products moved forward. such fundamental things shouldnt be an issue anymore.

if you build your own library with samples your C:\ drive will be full very fast...... stupid steinberg whose support sucks a** and never got back and leaves forum topics unreplied too. a company where you see how they dont give a f**k about customers as far as the money flows.

i know there are many fanboys but this cannot be discussed away, it'S simple facts.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:15 pm

mholloway wrote:Steinberg is the absolute worst when it comes to organization of content, especially user-related content, and their policy on factory content is from the dark ages.

Cubase is the only DAW on the market, afaik, that restricts / blocks use of factory audio content outside of the program itself. In ableton, for example, any drum hits (.wav files) used in a Drum Rack can also be freely grabbed, copied, moved, used elsewhere. Steinberg, otoh, apparently fear that their paying user-base will be ripping them off and selling their samples as packs online or some other nefarious behavior, so they lock and hide these content folders. Like that groove agent drum? Well, it's useable only from Groove Agent, yay, and how dare you think about finding it to use elsewhere! (As if we don't know how to just sample it, anyway if we REALLY wanted to....)

It's a weird, old-school, fear-based approach that values the Company over the (paying) User at every turn.

And it's a huge part of why I ditched Cubase a long while ago and use Live now for everything.

(and to be fair, I'll note that my knowledge of this goes back to Cubase 6 or 7 at latest, I haven't touched it since then, but I doubt much has changed in this area, knowing Steinberg!)

-M

Exactly the same impressions here and one reason i ditched Cubase with 6.5.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:29 pm

Caine123 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:You can always move those folders out on a different drive then symlink it back to the locations that Steiny requires...
sure but we have 2017 and so many other companies/products moved forward. such fundamental things shouldnt be an issue anymore.

Hey I presented a solution YOU can be in charge of, and for which you don't need to wait Steinberg to get their shit together. Now you can go back to your whining, or do the solution and go happy about your life. Your choice.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:47 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Caine123 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:You can always move those folders out on a different drive then symlink it back to the locations that Steiny requires...
sure but we have 2017 and so many other companies/products moved forward. such fundamental things shouldnt be an issue anymore.
Hey I presented a solution YOU can be in charge of, and for which you don't need to wait Steinberg to get their shit together. Now you can go back to your whining, or do the solution and go happy about your life. Your choice.

i didnt offended you or was meant to offend you, thanks for the solution

, maybe i should have made it clearer to split my post not quoting you

. sorry for the misunderstanding....

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:50 pm

The trick is to make sure the option "install for all users" is checked.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:55 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Caine123 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:You can always move those folders out on a different drive then symlink it back to the locations that Steiny requires...
sure but we have 2017 and so many other companies/products moved forward. such fundamental things shouldnt be an issue anymore.
Hey I presented a solution YOU can be in charge of, and for which you don't need to wait Steinberg to get their shit together. Now you can go back to your whining, or do the solution and go happy about your life. Your choice.

I have a feeling that it is all about the whining.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5#p6709115

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9#p6735019

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4#p6744904

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5#p6748055

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4#p6749064

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:56 pm

EvilDragon wrote:You can always move those folders out on a different drive then symlink it back to the locations that Steiny requires...

This is not consistently reliable in Windows.

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:10 pm

ghettosynth wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:You can always move those folders out on a different drive then symlink it back to the locations that Steiny requires...
This is not consistently reliable in Windows.

Its true that a few vendors have installation packages that will delete the hard links.
Its never been a problem for me, I just have a text file with the commands saved in it,
copy them, fire up the powershell, press ctrl-v... Fixed...

BTW its a necessity for me to use them, no choice really. Without redoing my entire
system.

-Cheers

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:13 pm

pekbro wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:You can always move those folders out on a different drive then symlink it back to the locations that Steiny requires...
This is not consistently reliable in Windows.
Its true that a few vendors have installation packages that will delete the hard links.
Its never been a problem for me, I just have a text file with the commands saved in it,
copy them, fire up the powershell, press ctrl-v... Fixed...

BTW its a necessity for me to use them, no choice really. Without redoing my entire
system.

-Cheers

Yep, and it has caused me issues. I used to do a lot more than I do now and I use them extensively in linux, but I'm very careful about it with Windows, especially when it comes to dealing with companies like Steinberg. IMO, OP has a point, Steinberg is rather old school about this stuff.

Padshop (Pro) sample location? Steinberg sucks and feels so old... extra offensive :)