[Repro-1] Released!
- KVRian
- 1202 posts since 8 May, 2003 from Munich
With hardware controller knobs assigned to the 3 mod knobs in Repro-1 (mod fil env, mod osc b, mod lfo) via midi learn I seem to be triggering the modwheel itself in addition to the modulation amount knobs.
Is this behaviour intended?
edit: nevermind it seems to be unrelated to Repro-1, it's my Nektar sending cc1 on the mixer section knobs
Is this behaviour intended?
edit: nevermind it seems to be unrelated to Repro-1, it's my Nektar sending cc1 on the mixer section knobs
- KVRAF
- 3261 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Midi assignemnet/automation Repro1 VST3 x 64
Im unable to midi learn any midi controller parameters in Cubase, no issue with other plugins afaiw.
By manually setting up midi assignment in the midi table, the midi assignment works.
However once enabling [W]-write, in cubase. The automation recording is not working except when pressing the record which is recording over the original midi, other plugins I can just play back with Write enabled and the automation is captured. Again no issue with other plugins.
Any help appreciated as in middle of a project and if not working, dont want to waste more time trying to find a null and void fix.
Thanks guys.
Im unable to midi learn any midi controller parameters in Cubase, no issue with other plugins afaiw.
By manually setting up midi assignment in the midi table, the midi assignment works.
However once enabling [W]-write, in cubase. The automation recording is not working except when pressing the record which is recording over the original midi, other plugins I can just play back with Write enabled and the automation is captured. Again no issue with other plugins.
Any help appreciated as in middle of a project and if not working, dont want to waste more time trying to find a null and void fix.
Thanks guys.
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
That's a limitation of VST3 plugins for now - no MIDI learn.
- KVRAF
- 3261 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Thanks ED, thought that may be the case. Appreciate the confirmation.EvilDragon wrote:That's a limitation of VST3 plugins for now - no MIDI learn.
Do you know why CC automation works in midi record mode only or is this again another restriction.
Find manually ammending automation in the main Cubase window much more fruitful than the chunky midi editor?
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
No idea, I don't use Cubase, or VST3 unless I REALLY have to (and most often I don't have to)
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- 1735 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
There are two kinds of automation you can record, MIDI CC automation and parameter automation.MFXxx wrote:By manually setting up midi assignment in the midi table, the midi assignment works.
However once enabling [W]-write, in cubase. The automation recording is not working except when pressing the record which is recording over the original midi, other plugins I can just play back with Write enabled and the automation is captured. Again no issue with other plugins.
If you assign a CC to a parameter and then use that CC to record automation, you are effectively only recording the CC movement, but not the plugin parameter movement itself. This will be recorded inside the MIDI clip in Cubase, and you have to record-enable the track and also press record in the transport bar for this to work.
Then there is plugin parameter automation. For this, you simply enable the write automation by pressing the 'w'. Then when the host plays, you move the plugin parameter with your mouse to record that automation on a lane in the main Cubase window (no need to press record on the transport bar).
This is the standard way this works in Cubase, afair. I also tried it with some plugins from other developers, it works the same way in every plugin.
I would actually recommend recording parameter automation over recording CC automation.
Because if you ever change the CC assignments in the plugin, your projects won't sound the same again. E.g. if you usually use CC 21 to control Filter Cutoff, and only record the CC movements, but at some point change your CC assignment for Cutoff to CC 22, then the recorded CC automation won't control Cutoff anymore.
That QA guy from planet u-he.
- KVRAF
- 3261 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Thanks Tas. Yep you are confirming what I thought. I always use parameter automation (using the GUI knobs or assigning a midi controller to that knob).tasmaniandevil wrote:There are two kinds of automation you can record, MIDI CC automation and parameter automation.MFXxx wrote:By manually setting up midi assignment in the midi table, the midi assignment works.
However once enabling [W]-write, in cubase. The automation recording is not working except when pressing the record which is recording over the original midi, other plugins I can just play back with Write enabled and the automation is captured. Again no issue with other plugins.
If you assign a CC to a parameter and then use that CC to record automation, you are effectively only recording the CC movement, but not the plugin parameter movement itself. This will be recorded inside the MIDI clip in Cubase, and you have to record-enable the track and also press record in the transport bar for this to work.
Then there is plugin parameter automation. For this, you simply enable the write automation by pressing the 'w'. Then when the host plays, you move the plugin parameter with your mouse to record that automation on a lane in the main Cubase window (no need to press record on the transport bar).
This is the standard way this works in Cubase, afair. I also tried it with some plugins from other developers, it works the same way in every plugin.
I would actually recommend recording parameter automation over recording CC automation.
Because if you ever change the CC assignments in the plugin, your projects won't sound the same again. E.g. if you usually use CC 21 to control Filter Cutoff, and only record the CC movements, but at some point change your CC assignment for Cutoff to CC 22, then the recorded CC automation won't control Cutoff anymore.
I dont think that the parameter automation is working with Repor1 in Cubase. Ill drop uhe a bug report and take it from there.
Cheers for the detailed response, really helpful.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 28065 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
As Tas said, it works the same way in every plug-in, which includes Repro-1. It just works, double checked with our Cubase users.MFXxx wrote:I dont think that the parameter automation is working with Repor1 in Cubase. Ill drop uhe a bug report and take it from there.
- KVRAF
- 3261 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Hi Urs thanks for dropping in, I haven't dropper a support ticket yet. Is this confirmed with the VST3. Ill try a fresh project just in case something got tweaked inadvertently during the project workflow.
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 28065 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
In VST3, parameter automation works. Only MIDI learn does not, but it is possible to manually add MIDI assignments to the list, or use MIDI Learn with VST2 (the assignment of which then is available in VST3 as well)MFXxx wrote:Hi Urs thanks for dropping in, I haven't dropper a support ticket yet. Is this confirmed with the VST3. Ill try a fresh project just in case something got tweaked inadvertently during the project workflow.