Looking a decent Timpani VST
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 503 posts since 19 Apr, 2009
But not IK Multimedia - both Miroslav and the Percussion sets have them, but I don' need to spend well over $150 each (AUD) just to get timpanis!
So I am looking for recommendations for a timpani VST that is decent and doesn't cost an arm and a leg haha!
Thanks
So I am looking for recommendations for a timpani VST that is decent and doesn't cost an arm and a leg haha!
Thanks
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
A dedicated Timpani VST only that's decent? What do you consider decent? I use EWQL and it's amazing off the charts fantastic. Hits, rolls, crescendos.miden wrote:But not IK Multimedia - both Miroslav and the Percussion sets have them, but I don' need to spend well over $150 each (AUD) just to get timpanis!
So I am looking for recommendations for a timpani VST that is decent and doesn't cost an arm and a leg haha!
Thanks
Listen to this track. You can hear it in several places with the roll at the end.
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... -originals
You're not going to find something this realistic that's just a dedicated Timpani.
- KVRian
- 667 posts since 27 Jul, 2010
What's your budget?
Or, just google "free timpani vst".
Or.. look into an entire, sales priced orchestral instrument set.
Here's one (sale ends in a few days): Virtuoso Ensembles
Or, just google "free timpani vst".
Or.. look into an entire, sales priced orchestral instrument set.
Here's one (sale ends in a few days): Virtuoso Ensembles
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- KVRist
- 267 posts since 2 Nov, 2015
Looking for a timpani virtual studio technology
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- KVRian
- 1367 posts since 30 Jul, 2013
Decent is relative and I'm hardly unbiased, but this is free and deleting is easy...
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?pl ... ni&id=2731
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?pl ... ni&id=2731
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 503 posts since 19 Apr, 2009
Ahh, but you don't get the benefit of "user experience" hence the question here...Didn't need you to do the "google speech" man, just contribute if you actually know something!egbert101 wrote:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1j6g3i
http://www.vstplanet.com/News/2014/Sams ... m-vsti.htm
I mean, it took me 5 minutes looking on google. Honestly, these kind of questions are just laziness. And if you want realism, you're going to have to buy a multisampled library which won't be cheap. If there is some obscure freeware Timpani out there, well google is your friend, go do it yourself.
Oh and obviously I am not looking for free...most free stuff is ultimately pretty crap, or is only a tease for a "buy" at some point.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 503 posts since 19 Apr, 2009
$90 for one instrument? And it (the timpani) is only 258 meg so won't be that impressive I'd imagine. But thanks for the link. Looks like a nice plug otherwiseprogtronic wrote:What's your budget?
Or, just google "free timpani vst".
Or.. look into an entire, sales priced orchestral instrument set.
Here's one (sale ends in a few days): Virtuoso Ensembles
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 503 posts since 19 Apr, 2009
Sorry, iLok territory here...no go - totally!wagtunes wrote:A dedicated Timpani VST only that's decent? What do you consider decent? I use EWQL and it's amazing off the charts fantastic. Hits, rolls, crescendos.
Listen to this track. You can hear it in several places with the roll at the end.
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... -originals
You're not going to find something this realistic that's just a dedicated Timpani.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
I'm sure VSL will probably have a comparable quality product. Again, it won't be cheap.miden wrote:Sorry, iLok territory here...no go - totally!wagtunes wrote:A dedicated Timpani VST only that's decent? What do you consider decent? I use EWQL and it's amazing off the charts fantastic. Hits, rolls, crescendos.
Listen to this track. You can hear it in several places with the roll at the end.
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... -originals
You're not going to find something this realistic that's just a dedicated Timpani.
I doubt you're going to find what you're looking for stand alone.
In fact, I'll bet every dollar in my bank account that you won't.
- KVRian
- 667 posts since 27 Jul, 2010
Well, here's something even more expensive. It's my 'go-to' library for really solid orchestral percussion: Rhapsody: Orchestral Percussionmiden wrote:$90 for one instrument? And it (the timpani) is only 258 meg so won't be that impressive I'd imagine. But thanks for the link. Looks like a nice plug otherwiseprogtronic wrote:What's your budget?
Or, just google "free timpani vst".
Or.. look into an entire, sales priced orchestral instrument set.
Here's one (sale ends in a few days): Virtuoso Ensembles
You're prolly not gonna find a decent stand-alone timpani library. So.. it's either free & low quality, or nothing.. I guess.
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- KVRian
- 818 posts since 8 Jan, 2012
You could try this one for $79 if you have Kontakt. It has both mallets and sticks covering all the usual articulations, and then patches covering unusual playing techniques and sound design stuff. I really like it.
http://www.modwheel.co.nz/timphonia
http://www.modwheel.co.nz/timphonia
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 503 posts since 19 Apr, 2009
Yeah, thanks to the last three posters - I suspect you are 100% correct. The IK libraries are 99 Euro so maybe one of the ones suggested above will be the way to go, they are a bit cheaper.
In answer to a question, no, no Kontakt...only the base version Essentials, or something like that. It is a full version, just greatly stripped down so I am thinking those libraries would not run.
In answer to a question, no, no Kontakt...only the base version Essentials, or something like that. It is a full version, just greatly stripped down so I am thinking those libraries would not run.
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- Banned
- 57 posts since 4 Aug, 2017
What do you want from an instrument like timpani, 5GB of samples?miden wrote:
$90 for one instrument? And it (the timpani) is only 258 meg so won't be that impressive I'd imagine. But thanks for the link. Looks like a nice plug otherwise
Decent timpani "sound library" is consisted of:
4 layers: mp, mf, f, ff (mezzo-piano, mezzo-forte, forte, fortissimo) with 2-3 round robbins.
Then you have different tunings: C, D, E, F, G, A, B in two octaves.
Then you add some rolls and crescendos and if you convert all of this to flac or Kontakt's ncw you'll end up with around 150MB of samples. This is enough to have a good sampled timpani.
You can add 15 round robbins if you want, you basically won't even hear the difference because of the nature of the instrument, its low, muddy sound.
When you place music on top of them, you won't be able to tell difference between 2 round robins and 10,
you are absolutely fine even with 2 round robins, just to avoid artificial machine gun-ish sound.
Most commercial orchestral sound libraries have timpani sampled this way or in a similar fashion.
Nobody is gonna sample timpani too deep, to stack 10 layers and 15 round robins because it's an useless overkill.
Those 258MB's is perfectly fine when it comes to size.