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bosone
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Postby bosone; Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:18 pm windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

Hi!
just bought a new laptop with windows 10 and a touchscreen (inspiron 5378).
it has a I5 and I am trying how it reacts with sonar and komplete.

i was wondering if there is any specific app/software that i can use with a touchscreen, maybe some controller surface app that I can link in someway to my main DAW (in another PC).
or some cool synth like geoshred for iPad...
thanks! :)
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Postby bungle; Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:55 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

No, touchscreen is particularly crappy on Windows, most developers assume you will be using a mouse and as such they either have second rate or no touch support, forget it has touch screen support and move on, it is one of the reasons that Surface is failing so badly, no developers really have any interest in touch outside of Android and IOS.

Remixlive works OK from MixVibes, probably the best use of my touch tablet on Windows 10.
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Postby bosone; Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:57 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

understood! thanks indeed...
anyway the touch is quite useful for everyday tasks in windows. will see... it has been just 2 days that I'm fiddling with the new toy! :D
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Postby garryknight; Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:33 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

Interesting. I get good results using touch with Studio One 3.5 on my Windows 10 Surface Pro 3. I often get most of a project finished before finishing it on my desktop PC. With a touch display, it's often about setting up macros you can tap with the stylus or your finger that emulate keyboard commands. Yes, I know that's more or less the definition of a macro, but I mean ones that can be added as buttons on a toolbar. As you can do in Studio One.

For a relatively lightweight DAW you can use for sketching out ideas, you could check out Stagelight or Studio One Mobile 3.

As for controller surface apps, the only one I know is the remote controller for Studio One, which works fine.
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Postby iPlogger; Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:40 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

I've downloaded, but never used Ctrlr: http://ctrlr.org/

> For a relatively lightweight DAW you can use for sketching out ideas, you could check out Stagelight

I used Stagelight for over a year. Originally got it specifically because it was geared towards touch. I really liked it.
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lucidsamples
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Postby lucidsamples; Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:37 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

I also have positive experience with PreSonus on touchscreen.

Also I am actively looking for a controller using touchscreen and so far the best I could do was to emulate some Android apps or even install Android as an OS on my laptop... but this is all going into wrong direction!

I've been talking with some software developers as a part of my job. If I find something interesting, I promise to share here :)
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:20 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

I use loads of audio software with a 23inch touchscreen on Win 10.

Plugins with resizeable Guis are particularly apt and anything compiled with JUCE is natively multitouch.

Several of my DAWs are touch friendly.

I really like using sequencer plugins, the new HY sequencer pack with resizable Guis are great and seem almost designed for touch.

I find it particularly fun/useful when playing and tweaking hardware, I can just reach over and use the puter in a similar fashion without having to take my eyes off things, grab the mouse, manouvre it, click or drag the screen element. I just interact directly with the screen like I would my hardware knobs and buttons etc

It's made some of my midi controllers redundant for certain tasks.

Ignore the naysayers, touch definitely has its benefits.
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:22 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

https://touchinnovations.com/emulator-2/

I was lucky to get in on this a few years ago before it went Sub so I seem to have a perpetual licence :)
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Postby Clearscreen; Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:05 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

Using Bitwig on a surface pro and its great! Have a look at Usine as well, its designed for touch from the ground up.
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fmr
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Postby fmr; Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:20 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

bungle wrote:No, touchscreen is particularly crappy on Windows, most developers assume you will be using a mouse and as such they either have second rate or no touch support, forget it has touch screen support and move on, it is one of the reasons that Surface is failing so badly, no developers really have any interest in touch outside of Android and IOS.

Remixlive works OK from MixVibes, probably the best use of my touch tablet on Windows 10.

Maybe because touch ready GUI interface for a Pro application is almost like inventing a square circle. Usually, the GUI is crowded with controls, and you don't have enough precision to control it with you fingers (unless you fingers are as thin and precise as a mouse pointer).

That's also why iOS apps only have a few controllers, and things usually are so limited. Why do you think they are now coming with pens and pencils to the touch screen?
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:08 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

^
Hence larger screens are more appropriate for certain applicarions.
If a use find the experience in useful on a 14" screen doesn't mean it's a write off, as my experience with a 23" bass been positive.

Depends how much arm waiving is required and best posture, in which case I revert back to a mouse
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Postby marlow; Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:29 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

By far, you have to try out XOTOPAD by feelyoursound :tu: . The developer is a great and responsive guy and all of his applications are fantastic. You can even use the free version of XOTOPAD, called isopad or something. The website is here:

http://feelyoursound.com
bungle
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Postby bungle; Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:10 pm Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

fmr wrote:
bungle wrote:No, touchscreen is particularly crappy on Windows, most developers assume you will be using a mouse and as such they either have second rate or no touch support, forget it has touch screen support and move on, it is one of the reasons that Surface is failing so badly, no developers really have any interest in touch outside of Android and IOS.

Remixlive works OK from MixVibes, probably the best use of my touch tablet on Windows 10.

Maybe because touch ready GUI interface for a Pro application is almost like inventing a square circle. Usually, the GUI is crowded with controls, and you don't have enough precision to control it with you fingers (unless you fingers are as thin and precise as a mouse pointer).

That's also why iOS apps only have a few controllers, and things usually are so limited. Why do you think they are now coming with pens and pencils to the touch screen?


IOS apps are extremely complicated nowadays and so are Android apps ;)
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Postby fmr; Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:21 pm Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

bungle wrote:IOS apps are extremely complicated nowadays and so are Android apps ;)

Maybe that's why they now have pens and pencils. Next move will be using a wireless mouse and keyboard :hihi:
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Postby iPlogger; Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:01 am Re: windows 10 laptop with touchscreen. what can i do?

I forgot about Yeco. It is specific to Ableton Live, so does not meet the requirement of the OP, but I wanted to mention it for those who might read this thread in the future.

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