Best VST instrument for relaxation, Ambient, sounds
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 24 Dec, 2017
Didn't read all the thread but Arturia V collection, can get pretty much everything & anything out of that. - its very special for ambient stuff. as you can be unique and be creative (if thats your thing)
- KVRAF
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
It's a while since I made that piece so can't remember exactly but I probably used the fx room and spectral processing for this as the original audio was already created in Alchemy and Reaktor. For other pieces I can use Metsynth more as a composition tool. It has very high quality time stretch and spectral tools but it's not unique, I could probably get similarish results with Paulstretch for the time stretch aspects at least.ghettosynth wrote:I've heard this before, I think that I've listened to several of your works. I'm curious about the role that Metasynth plays here? It's expensive, mac only, has an old school website etc. What do you think that is unique about it and how were you using it for here?aMUSEd wrote:https://soundcloud.com/kymeia/ethernityCinebient wrote:Just let us post our favorite self made ambient/chill track since we should know what we have used for this. It´s easy to talk in "music"
Alchemy -> Reaktor -> Metasynth
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Thanks. Are there aspects to metasynth that you think justifies the price today?aMUSEd wrote:It's a while since I made that piece so can't remember exactly but I probably used the fx room and spectral processing for this as the original audio was already created in Alchemy and Reaktor. For other pieces I can use Metsynth more as a composition tool. It has very high quality time stretch and spectral tools but it's not unique, I could probably get similarish results with Paulstretch for the time stretch aspects at least.ghettosynth wrote:I've heard this before, I think that I've listened to several of your works. I'm curious about the role that Metasynth plays here? It's expensive, mac only, has an old school website etc. What do you think that is unique about it and how were you using it for here?aMUSEd wrote:https://soundcloud.com/kymeia/ethernityCinebient wrote:Just let us post our favorite self made ambient/chill track since we should know what we have used for this. It´s easy to talk in "music"
Alchemy -> Reaktor -> Metasynth
- KVRAF
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I got it on sale, probably wouldn't pay the full price
The timestretch is not unique but some of the spectral tools I have not seen elsewhere (or some are scattered within a number of GRM/Soundhack plugins) and the microtonal composer and image synth are still unique (although the interface is a pain at times, as is lack of undo history)
The timestretch is not unique but some of the spectral tools I have not seen elsewhere (or some are scattered within a number of GRM/Soundhack plugins) and the microtonal composer and image synth are still unique (although the interface is a pain at times, as is lack of undo history)
- KVRAF
- 2864 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy
You can use any VSTi to get superb relaxation sounds....
Just insert the instrument and then turn the volume down to zero....
Or better still...
Hit the power button on your computer and walk away....
I find that very relaxing
Just insert the instrument and then turn the volume down to zero....
Or better still...
Hit the power button on your computer and walk away....
I find that very relaxing
No auto tune...
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- KVRian
- 899 posts since 22 Nov, 2017
and don't forget to mediate a while
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- KVRAF
- 5179 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
...not if you go on a Saturday before Christmas in a shopping halldigitalboytn wrote:You can use any VSTi to get superb relaxation sounds....
Just insert the instrument and then turn the volume down to zero....
Or better still...
Hit the power button on your computer and walk away....
I find that very relaxing
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- KVRian
- 899 posts since 22 Nov, 2017
Again.timfarman wrote:I'm hoping to make some relaxation music with ambient, pads, soundscape type musical noise, I wondered what the best VST instruments would be, what do people think ? Really looking for mellow sounds.
Hope that's not too vague/general, I'm just doing it for fun !
Consider buying a hardware Synth.
The Waldorf BLOFELD offers an incredibly big variety of sounds including wavetables and the sound of Microwave / Waldorf Q / Wave. It is perfect for veeeery looooong evolving ambient pads and all kinds of strange sound alike. It features the legendary PPG as well as a comb (!) filter. It has one of the deepest modulation matrix I know which leaves no wishes unforfilled You really can´t do anything wrong here. And the desktop version is a no brainer due to its price. As a big PLUS it comes along without a dongle, a serial or an online registration
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXvQs4Nq06c
All other Non-Ambient orientated Synth-Nerds watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdXWsv41lx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9rbprK_EpA
I own a BLOFELD myself and it is true. This machine IS great sounding and shoots you directly in sound design heaven.
Have fun
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- KVRian
- 899 posts since 22 Nov, 2017
Hi Timfarman,timfarman wrote:I'm hoping to make some relaxation music with ambient, pads, soundscape type musical noise, I wondered what the best VST instruments would be, what do people think ? Really looking for mellow sounds.
Hope that's not too vague/general, I'm just doing it for fun !
I know you asked for a VST and here I come along with the second hardware suggestion...BUT I think you not only will progress in your Ambient Music Production but you probably will draw some real joy out of this process...
...when you buy a little field recorder (there are some very good and really affordable pieces out by Sony), go out record sounds and noises and process theses in your DAW and take them as a foundation for a GRANULAR sampler/ synthesizer. I recommend PADSHOP PRO (its great and cheap!). You will get endless options here and a neverending source of inspiration....and first of all you have made your own sounds!
And finally some VST-recomendations
As mentioned before by many people...Ambient Music really breathes through good EFX-machines. These are veeeery good and cheap and perfect for your purposes:
- Valhalla - SHIMMER
- VAlhalla - UBERMOD
And "the greatest of them all":
- U-he - MFM2 (More Feedback Machine 2). Not so cheap but a fantastic tool for sounddesign, where you can enter combfiltering and synthesizer territority using 4 delay units in one and combine them with a huge and deep modulation matrix. It´s sheer delay madness and its capable of producing a big variety of sounds and styles even some glitch and granular kind of sounds - awesome.
Cheers and happy producing.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 838 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from UK, Polegate
Interesting ! Something like that could be handy all round. I see what you mean, having unique found sounds as inspiration would make the whole thing nicer.
For more conventional stuff, I suppose one could use the Field recorder for dictating, song lyrics ideas, recording song ideas generally too ?
For more conventional stuff, I suppose one could use the Field recorder for dictating, song lyrics ideas, recording song ideas generally too ?
- KVRAF
- 5678 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
whatever synths you use, do yourself a favour and get yourself a preset bank by Hollo. His pads are the best in the known universe, reverse engineer a few of those bad boys and you'll be on your way to ambient heaven!
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
- KVRian
- 1188 posts since 24 May, 2006 from Our Amazing Oasis in Space - USA Section
I'd love to hear some examples of this process!nichttuntun wrote:...go out record sounds and noises and process theses in your DAW and take them as a foundation for a GRANULAR sampler/ synthesizer. I recommend PADSHOP PRO (its great and cheap!). You will get endless options here and a neverending source of inspiration....and first of all you have made your own sounds!
- KVRAF
- 2271 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
You need to spend a ton of money, get my favorite synths or better yet get the exact synths i use.
There's a lot of good info in this thread. I agree with the posts on page 1 that it's about how you use the synths as much or more than the actual architecture. That said i do also agree with the post on page 1 stating that a synth with either a large (ambient) preset bank and/or a synth with a large and good effects section is a good start. However, if you have a DAW with a good selection of effects than you are ready to make ambient music. The comment on using field recordings is spot on.
As an example i and my friends made lots of ambient music using a guitar, bass guitar, and percussion through a bunch of effects pedals for years. One percussionist used bells, sheets of plastic and metal, buckets, kitchen utensiles, and muffler parts. I don't agree with the whole 'this synth does this style of music' thing. Glad that concept was never applied to guitar (or piano.) Presets, yeah, architecture, no.
There's a lot of good info in this thread. I agree with the posts on page 1 that it's about how you use the synths as much or more than the actual architecture. That said i do also agree with the post on page 1 stating that a synth with either a large (ambient) preset bank and/or a synth with a large and good effects section is a good start. However, if you have a DAW with a good selection of effects than you are ready to make ambient music. The comment on using field recordings is spot on.
As an example i and my friends made lots of ambient music using a guitar, bass guitar, and percussion through a bunch of effects pedals for years. One percussionist used bells, sheets of plastic and metal, buckets, kitchen utensiles, and muffler parts. I don't agree with the whole 'this synth does this style of music' thing. Glad that concept was never applied to guitar (or piano.) Presets, yeah, architecture, no.
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- KVRian
- 899 posts since 22 Nov, 2017
Yes of course. You can use it as a dictating machine and - if you play an instrument - you can record yourself to find out where to improvetimfarman wrote:Interesting ! Something like that could be handy all round. I see what you mean, having unique found sounds as inspiration would make the whole thing nicer.
For more conventional stuff, I suppose one could use the Field recorder for dictating, song lyrics ideas, recording song ideas generally too ?
A nice idea is (in a DAW) to send some of your samples (or synth) into MFD2 and create a mad soundscape. Than render a certain part to audio. Than take this new audio file and feed it into a granular sampler. After that process add some nice reverb
I am also experimenting with droning Amp simulations. Brainworks has some really excellent VST guitar amps and it is amazing how they sound and what they can do to a signal...even in non-distorted mode. That can result in very thick atmospheric sounds combined with the tube delays of the amps. Also nice are tape-delay echos in general. They have much character and somehow sound kind of "old". You can get some results you cannot easily achieve with other delay units.
U-he Satin is fantastic but expensive and
SK-Notes Roundtone is cheap and has a great and organic sounding tape delay build in
SciFiArtMan wrote:I'd love to hear some examples of this process!nichttuntun wrote:...go out record sounds and noises and process theses in your DAW and take them as a foundation for a GRANULAR sampler/ synthesizer. I recommend PADSHOP PRO (its great and cheap!). You will get endless options here and a neverending source of inspiration....and first of all you have made your own sounds!
I am making music since the early 90th but I only had 1 track released out from my ex-project "Vincent´s Ohr" on a sampler and one album with a slow-motion-psycore guitar band where I made noises/ sounddesign/ samples and played Synthesizers (in the 90th). Now I am concentrating on playing the piano and diving deeper into harmonic music theroy. And I am still programming synth and experiment with all kind of soundsources and synthesis. BUT this is all just a hobby and I am doing it for the joy I am having when I listen to sound in general. Maybe one day I will get something out again. I am collecting ideas now. Who knows what will happen?
If you´d love to hear some examples of the described process...just get some tools and simply just do it by yourself...it is such a joy, you´ll love it for sure. Can´t encourage and recommend enough...
...here is some more inspiration for you all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0ztmM1tpeE&t=564s
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- addled muppet weed
- 105875 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass