Login / Register 0 items | $0.00 New @ KVR
User avatar
digitalboytn
KVRian
 
1154 posts since 7 Dec, 2008, from Global Cowboy

Postby digitalboytn; Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:10 am Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

What do NI and their friendly loan partners think about the new loops, samples and patch libraries ?

Kaching $$$$$ :wink:
Sorry - I don't use auto-tune....
User avatar
aMUSEd
KVRAF
 
29552 posts since 14 Sep, 2002, from In teh net

Postby aMUSEd; Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:54 am Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

So do any of them have a decent quality of synth presets? (ie more than say 50)

Most interested in new Prism presets and most not interested in pop/edm bassy and drum stuff
User avatar
martinjuenke
KVRAF
 
2021 posts since 28 Dec, 2015, from Germany

Postby martinjuenke; Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:51 am Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

So someone has to go on and test them...
Just received a 25% off code from NI and think about trying Prismatic Bliss. There is some cash on my Paypal from a recent selling here on KVR. Curiosity is driving me...

Music was my first love...
Flowing atmospheric music
http://www.sonoryth.bandcamp.com/music
User avatar
aMUSEd
KVRAF
 
29552 posts since 14 Sep, 2002, from In teh net

Postby aMUSEd; Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:56 am Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

martinjuenke wrote:So someone has to go on and test them...
Just received a 25% off code from NI and think about trying Prismatic Bliss. There is some cash on my Paypal from a recent selling here on KVR. Curiosity is driving me...


Just had a look at this - you'd think give the title and 'theme' it would have more than 16 Prism presets? Looks like none of them have many. I'd rather they gathered them all together than spread them out this way. It's really very much a money grabber.
mholloway
KVRian
 
934 posts since 10 Jan, 2009, from Portland, OR, USA

Postby mholloway; Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:10 am Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

All they've done is modified existing Maschine expansions so they now include Battery presets as well. The synth presets were already included in the original Maschine expansions, and usually there are only 12-20 or so per pack.

This was an easy money grab for NI: convert some Maschine kits into Battery samples so you can sell these (maschine) Expansions to folks who don't own Maschine.

I guess it makes sense, but it's far from exciting.

and FWIW, in my personal opinion, the various synth presets included in the Maschine expansions have never been very exciting or useful, but YMMV.

-M
www.dwifh.com - old-school industrial music by DEAD WHEN I FOUND HER
User avatar
martinjuenke
KVRAF
 
2021 posts since 28 Dec, 2015, from Germany

Postby martinjuenke; Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:52 am Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

martinjuenke wrote:So someone has to go on and test them...
Just received a 25% off code from NI and think about trying Prismatic Bliss. There is some cash on my Paypal from a recent selling here on KVR. Curiosity is driving me...

Okay, bought it.
I‘m underwhelmed:
# No specific documentation beside the 4 years old machine doc.
# Installation process is more or less manual, so you have to rebuild the database for Massive and you have to install the Prism aka Reaktor presets manually with all the downside of the prehistoric, nerdy Reaktor preset management
# The loops are simple WAVs (and REX2), no integration as Apple Loops prepared
# No midi files in addition to the loops
# ...
All in all you get the impression NI rushed out a patchwork of unintegrated and user unfriendly items for what reason ever.
So from my point of view not the best bargain I had.
But tastes differ...

Music was my first love...
Flowing atmospheric music
http://www.sonoryth.bandcamp.com/music
User avatar
zvenx
KVRAF
 
6554 posts since 16 Feb, 2005, from Kingston, Jamaica

Postby zvenx; Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:01 am Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

Hi you shouldn't have to manual rebuild massive database, when you start it in standalone mode it suppose to rebuild by itself.
I find to use prism and monark you are indeed better off using Komplete Kontrol or Maschine software to access them..
rsp

martinjuenke wrote:
martinjuenke wrote:So someone has to go on and test them...
Just received a 25% off code from NI and think about trying Prismatic Bliss. There is some cash on my Paypal from a recent selling here on KVR. Curiosity is driving me...

Okay, bought it.
I‘m underwhelmed:
# No specific documentation beside the 4 years old machine doc.
# Installation process is more or less manual, so you have to rebuild the database for Massive and you have to install the Prism aka Reaktor presets manually with all the downside of the prehistoric, nerdy Reaktor preset management
# The loops are simple WAVs (and REX2), no integration as Apple Loops prepared
# No midi files in addition to the loops
# ...
All in all you get the impression NI rushed out a patchwork of unintegrated and user unfriendly items for what reason ever.
So from my point of view not the best bargain I had.
But tastes differ...
Last edited by zvenx on Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
martinjuenke
KVRAF
 
2021 posts since 28 Dec, 2015, from Germany

Postby martinjuenke; Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:32 pm Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

Good remark, ZVENX!
Access is indeed a bit more easy via Komplete Kontrol.
But my overall conclusion remains the same:
A hodgepodge of mixed things without an integrated framework. Good for those who like it...

Music was my first love...
Flowing atmospheric music
http://www.sonoryth.bandcamp.com/music
User avatar
zvenx
KVRAF
 
6554 posts since 16 Feb, 2005, from Kingston, Jamaica

Postby zvenx; Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:40 pm Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

Oh I definitely agree with you and been begging NI to address presets on reaktor yearssss now.

on a different note...

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=500384

selling Resonant Blaze and Halcyon Sky.

thanks

rsp
Nocturnal909
KVRist
 
137 posts since 17 Nov, 2007, from PA USA

Postby Nocturnal909; Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:02 pm Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

Why did they say for the first time NI released new kits for Battery? What about Synthetic Drums 1 and 2, they were battery drum kits.

For a discount or sale I might buy it.
macmuse
KVRist
 
368 posts since 23 Jun, 2004

Postby macmuse; Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:56 pm Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

martinjuenke wrote:Okay, bought it.
I‘m underwhelmed:


What pack did you get?
jsp1979
KVRAF
 
2840 posts since 7 Aug, 2008

Postby jsp1979; Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:18 pm Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

macmuse wrote:
martinjuenke wrote:Okay, bought it.
I‘m underwhelmed:


What pack did you get?


In the very post you quoted, it says Prismatic Bliss.
macmuse
KVRist
 
368 posts since 23 Jun, 2004

Postby macmuse; Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:38 pm Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

Sorry I didn’t see that.
noddog
KVRist
 
55 posts since 4 Mar, 2015

Postby noddog; Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:12 pm Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

martinjuenke wrote:Okay, bought it.
I’m Underwhelmed.....


Martin, I understand that the organization of the pack is not so great, but how are the sounds and presets for Prismatic Bliss? This pack is “made in collaboration with Mode Audio”, and I really like some of the other sample sets that Mode Audio makes. It’s nice to have everything organized in a live pack, etc., but to me the sounds and presets are really what matters! Any comments on the sounds and presets?
User avatar
aMUSEd
KVRAF
 
29552 posts since 14 Sep, 2002, from In teh net

Postby aMUSEd; Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:38 pm Re: Native Instrumens Expansions... opinions?

noddog wrote:
martinjuenke wrote:Okay, bought it.
I’m Underwhelmed.....


Martin, I understand that the organization of the pack is not so great, but how are the sounds and presets for Prismatic Bliss? This pack is “made in collaboration with Mode Audio”, and I really like some of the other sample sets that Mode Audio makes. It’s nice to have everything organized in a live pack, etc., but to me the sounds and presets are really what matters! Any comments on the sounds and presets?


Well it looks like the number of synth presets is pretty pathetic - they are mostly padded with samples. For example Prismatic Bliss has 16 Prism presets (despite the name).
PreviousNext

Moderator: KVR Moderators (Main)

Return to Soundware