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Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:03 am

So far, Im pretty impressed with it. This is a totally sensible TR-808 substitute that makes me almost not miss my old 808(s).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:08 am

Did they make it have individual outputs or is it (stupidly) just a stereo out?

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:38 am

EvilDragon wrote:Did they make it have individual outputs or is it (stupidly) just a stereo out?

You could use up to 11 Sub Outputs with the Roland Cloud TR-808 plugin.
The Sub outputs have to be activated at the "Sub Output" entry in the Option menu to have an audio output from them.

It also has a nice graphical pattern editor (EDIT button) for easily editing the patterns.

Like with other Roland Cloud plugins you could create custom banks, in this case for saving you own patterns.

The "Panel" button offers a second page with additional knobs for each instrument (e.g. gain and panning knobs).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:45 am

Good, they didn't f*ck it up then. Nothing would surprise me with Roland, they're capable of doing the most ridiculous limitations for absolutely no reason (example: Sound Canvas is 16 part multitimbral but it has NO individual outputs!).

sinemotor · Post by **sinemotor** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:35 pm

The cool feature is that you can drag and drop patterns into a MIDI clip on your DAW.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:05 pm

That's also a basic necessity for any plugin that has some sort of sequencer...

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:53 pm

What advantages brings this over samples?

Just askin. Somehow since daws i was never seeing the advantages from drum maschine in eg fl studio

beely · Post by **beely** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:57 pm

Caine123 wrote:What advantages brings this over samples?

It's essentially a modelled analog synth, which mean the drums can be varied "electronically" according to the synth models, and the produced sounds aren't the same every time.

Some people will be perfectly happy with samples (lets face it, there are a million different sources of 808 samples available), particularly ones recorded well with nice boutique gear, but the purists always appreciate a good emulation...

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:27 pm

I think it is great they released this, I'm still not interested enough to subscribe, but drum machines definitely help fill out Roland's Cloud offering.

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:38 pm

EvilDragon wrote:That's also a basic necessity for any plugin that has some sort of sequencer...

Do you really have to jump and passively piss on Roland in any Roland thread on KVR? Good Dinosaur my ass. Are you really that sad?

Did NI added resizable GUI in Kontakt yet? Ya know kinda basic necessity for any plugin these days.

Even Roland managed to do it for most of their latest VSTis...

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:01 pm

Well no, it has properly resizeable (i.e. not a blurry mess when enlarged) GUIs only for FEW of their latest offerings. Anything they released before D-50 looks like crap

Also I'm not passively pissing on Roland. I WOULD be doing that if they had released TR-808 with only stereo outs. In fact, I would be actively pissing on them then

Also note some other Roland threads here, I participate in some of those discussions perfectly normally. Are you really that sad that you need to call me out in a generalized statement which isn't true (i.e. implying I piss over Roland in ALL Roland threads, which I don't - I purely observe what Roland does solely on their own merits from my perspective, not my problem if you don't like that perspective)?

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:26 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Good, they didn't f*ck it up then. Nothing would surprise me with Roland, they're capable of doing the most ridiculous limitations for absolutely no reason (example: Sound Canvas is 16 part multitimbral but it has NO individual outputs!).

Multitimbral. lol. This isn't 1985.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:28 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Well no, it has properly resizeable (i.e. not a blurry mess when enlarged) GUIs only for FEW of their latest offerings. Anything they released before D-50 looks like crap

Also I'm not passively pissing on Roland. I WOULD be doing that if they had released TR-808 with only stereo outs. In fact, I would be actively pissing on them then

Also note some other Roland threads here, I participate in some of those discussions perfectly normally. Are you really that sad that you need to call me out in a generalized statement which isn't true (i.e. implying I piss over Roland in ALL Roland threads, which I don't - I purely observe what Roland does solely on their own merits from my perspective, not my problem if you don't like that perspective)?

This quote "Good, they didn't f*ck it up then. Nothing would surprise me with Roland, they're capable of doing the most ridiculous limitations for absolutely no reason" really doesn't leave you any credibility with this post.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:34 pm

BMoore wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Good, they didn't f*ck it up then. Nothing would surprise me with Roland, they're capable of doing the most ridiculous limitations for absolutely no reason (example: Sound Canvas is 16 part multitimbral but it has NO individual outputs!).
Multitimbral. lol. This isn't 1985.

Of course it isn't, yet multitimbral instruments still exist and are alive and well. And I would expect them all to have multiple outputs for external processing, yes. This is not an unrealistic expectation.

BMoore wrote:This quote "Good, they didn't f*ck it up then. Nothing would surprise me with Roland, they're capable of doing the most ridiculous limitations for absolutely no reason" really doesn't leave you any credibility with this post.

Yeah, right. Keep saying that to yourself

Roland has a long history of doing some ridiculous limitations on a lot of their hardware, it's not about credibility, it's about facts.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:20 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Of course it isn't, yet multitimbral instruments still exist and are alive and well. And I would expect them all to have multiple outputs for external processing, yes. This is not an unrealistic expectation.

Of course it is. Multitimbrality hasn't been a usefull VST feature for 20 years.

EvilDragon wrote: Yeah, right. Keep saying that to yourself Roland has a long history of doing some ridiculous limitations on a lot of their hardware, it's not about credibility, it's about facts.

I don't need to tell myself anything. This wasn't about Roland "facts". It was about you pissing on Roland. The fact.

Roland TR-808 available on Roland Cloud