Sitala drum sampler going into alpha, looking for feedback!
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 35 posts since 18 Apr, 2018 from Berlin
Hi folks --
We've got a new free drum plugin that's now hit alpha, and I wanted to see if we could get a few people here to give it a test drive and let us know what they think. We're trying to figure out which features to prioritize for 1.0.
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Download for macOS / Windows: https://decomposer.de/sitala.html
Basically it's a sample-based drum plugin with 4 main controls:
- Shape
- Compression
- Tuning
- Volume
The shape control sweeps across from a short glitchy envelope, over to one with the attack rolled off. What the others do is pretty obvious. Though both the shape and compression do gain compensation by restoring the RMS peak of the processed sample -- basically so that you can tweak them without having to rework the mix.
Right now there are just a couple of kits, but that's something that we also intend to increase once we get closer to a 1.0 version.
Here's a slightly cheesy demo track created just using Sitala:
https://soundcloud.com/sitala/sitala-demo
We've got a new free drum plugin that's now hit alpha, and I wanted to see if we could get a few people here to give it a test drive and let us know what they think. We're trying to figure out which features to prioritize for 1.0.
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Download for macOS / Windows: https://decomposer.de/sitala.html
Basically it's a sample-based drum plugin with 4 main controls:
- Shape
- Compression
- Tuning
- Volume
The shape control sweeps across from a short glitchy envelope, over to one with the attack rolled off. What the others do is pretty obvious. Though both the shape and compression do gain compensation by restoring the RMS peak of the processed sample -- basically so that you can tweak them without having to rework the mix.
Right now there are just a couple of kits, but that's something that we also intend to increase once we get closer to a 1.0 version.
Here's a slightly cheesy demo track created just using Sitala:
https://soundcloud.com/sitala/sitala-demo
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- Banned
- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Going to test it right away.
EnergyXT3 - LMMS - FL Studio | Roland SH201 - Waldorf Rocket | SoundCloud - Bandcamp
- Banned
- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Works perfectly on my machine. Will there be a vst version too?
EnergyXT3 - LMMS - FL Studio | Roland SH201 - Waldorf Rocket | SoundCloud - Bandcamp
- KVRist
- 59 posts since 1 Apr, 2018 from Berlin, Germany
Hi Halonmusic --
(I work together with the guy that posted this.)
We realized after doing this build that we should prompt folks for where VSTs should be installed on Windows, as they're not as standardized as they are on Mac.
The VST should have been dropped in:
C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VstPlugins\Sitala.dll
In the next alpha we'll add a prompt in the installer to ask where the user would like the plugin to be copied to.
Any thoughts on the interface? Did you get a chance to play around with things a little bit?
(I work together with the guy that posted this.)
We realized after doing this build that we should prompt folks for where VSTs should be installed on Windows, as they're not as standardized as they are on Mac.
The VST should have been dropped in:
C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VstPlugins\Sitala.dll
In the next alpha we'll add a prompt in the installer to ask where the user would like the plugin to be copied to.
Any thoughts on the interface? Did you get a chance to play around with things a little bit?
- Banned
- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Ok thanks. I like the interface a lot. I've been playing around with it and I really like it. I love the shape feature. Looking forward to the final releasescotchi wrote:Hi Halonmusic --
(I work together with the guy that posted this.)
We realized after doing this build that we should prompt folks for where VSTs should be installed on Windows, as they're not as standardized as they are on Mac.
The VST should have been dropped in:
C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VstPlugins\Sitala.dll
In the next alpha we'll add a prompt in the installer to ask where the user would like the plugin to be copied to.
Any thoughts on the interface? Did you get a chance to play around with things a little bit?
EnergyXT3 - LMMS - FL Studio | Roland SH201 - Waldorf Rocket | SoundCloud - Bandcamp
- KVRist
- 94 posts since 19 Jan, 2018
I like the idea of a simple sampler with 4 main controls that aim to be expressive. Presumably, this is not meant to replace a DAW's built-in sampling tools, because if so, it would need to be much more comprehensive (and my feedback won't make sense). But if you are in fact aiming to make 4 big knobs that are as interesting as possible, I have some unorganized thoughts:
- The shape knob is the most interesting by far; good work on that!
- Volume probably shouldn't be one of the "main 4" controls, since it's not so much for expression and more for mixing. It could go at the bottom of the interface, under each drum pad.
- The pitch control also isn't the most interesting, but in combination with some modulations it could be a lot more fun. Speaking of which:
- I think a global LFO and velocity linking would add a lot of expressive options to the plugin. Whether or not that's in scope is up to you.
- The closed hi hat should probably cut the open hi hat.
- You could put the velocity to volume link before the compressor so you get different dynamics depending on the velocity.
- The ability to send each sample to a different output would be nice, but I'm not sure how hard that is to implement.
- Some lo-fi options might be cool?
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- KVRist
- 259 posts since 25 Oct, 2008
Nice offering. However on installing it asked me to stop I-Lok as it was using a service sitala wished to use, I pressed ignore and it worked OK. I think too much work has gone into this software for it to be any intentional form of malware, However people are not going to like any message requesting they stop I-Lok.
- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 6 Jul, 2012 from Sick-cily
Like!
Could you put a version without installer please?
Could you put a version without installer please?
- KVRist
- 94 posts since 16 Jul, 2017
This is a great plugin and it works OK on REAPER 5.80 x64 (Windows 10 x64) but I have one question?
Is the VST gonna have multiple audio outputs?
Apart from that it sounds great, looks great and does a great job!
Thanks!
Is the VST gonna have multiple audio outputs?
Apart from that it sounds great, looks great and does a great job!
Thanks!
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- KVRAF
- 4828 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Yes, that would make me more comfortable when testing an alpha version!Turello wrote:Like! Could you put a version without installer please?
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
It's a really nice concept ! Less is more.
You could replace it with resonance which is also a simple way to change sounds but can introduce a lot of extra colors with just one simple knob.
With regard to placing knobs in accordance to eye movement priority, I would swap resonance with the tuning knob (so resonance on the left; tuning on the right;(volume knobs at the bottom; ).
I concur.tesselode wrote: [*]Volume probably shouldn't be one of the "main 4" controls, since it's not so much for expression and more for mixing. It could go at the bottom of the interface, under each drum pad.
You could replace it with resonance which is also a simple way to change sounds but can introduce a lot of extra colors with just one simple knob.
With regard to placing knobs in accordance to eye movement priority, I would swap resonance with the tuning knob (so resonance on the left; tuning on the right;(volume knobs at the bottom; ).
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- KVRAF
- 35191 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Extra idea : you could introduce some analog drift/behavior.
Again a (functional) simple way to introduce some more variance and colors.
You could apply the drift by default, provide a setting in the menu, or put a control on the GUI (but the GUI is so nice and clean now).
Again a (functional) simple way to introduce some more variance and colors.
You could apply the drift by default, provide a setting in the menu, or put a control on the GUI (but the GUI is so nice and clean now).
- KVRAF
- 3338 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
AU +1...