Baby Audio Transit - Ultimate Transition Designer in collabration w/ Andrew Huang

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I rarely use automation. Rarely.
The ones i need to tweak in real time do
Infiltrator for instance, wah wah pedals etc.

rsp
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:47 pm
zvenx wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:05 pm Right, but as i know you know midi cc control is different thab automation.
rsp
What percentage of your FX plugins have a MIDI learn system for CC control of params? I've got well over a thousand plugins and I'd say only a small handful do.

It's not a problem for FX (instruments are a different story) as long as there are automation parameters.
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bmanic wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:09 am
Liero wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:23 am
bmanic wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:56 pm I think you guys are missing the point. It's about the super easy morphing and setting up of the morphing for a single knob. There are of course tons of other multi-effects but no easy way to quickly morph between a ton of settings for a ton of effects simultaneously, and more importantly, whole "preset sets".

With the twist of a single knob you can go from a crazy freeze delay that is bitcrushed and pitched 12 semitones up to something completely different and then yet again to something completely different.. with ONE knob. That is the point.

Indeed the closest to this is Sugar Bytes Turnado but it's much more difficult to setup and has much less control over the morphing.
You could also use Bitwig, which opens the possibility to do precisely this with pretty much _any_ parameter of any effect _on any track_ with the macro modulators etc.
But is it a single point and click? I've never used Bitwig so I have absolutely no idea how it works.

I mean, you can do this exact same thing in Reaper as well, setting up a parameter to modulate or morph tons of effects on any track, but assigning this is not easy nor quick at all.
Yes you can, and it's extremely intuitive and low amount of clicks to get set up (unlike REAPER). Plus, as I said, with Bitwig 5 you can now do it across different tracks. Just add a macro button to the project-wide modulation tab. Click the modulate button, click and drag any effect parameter (even mixer volume and pan) to set the mod destination and depth in one click. Do this with as many parameters as you want, and you're done. The single macro knob now moves all the effect parameters as much as you want. There's also an XY pad if you prefer an extra dimension.

You can also create preset of your favorite effect chains that save the modulations you create. I've used pretty much every DAW out there and it's simply the best at this precise function. Bitwig sucks in many other things, and loses to REAPER in pretty much any audio-related function, but when it comes to modulation there's really no contest. The whole DAW is basically a synth and effect modulation playground.

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I've always wondered why they named their company Baby Audio, now it makes sense. They turn a lot of haters into babies that seem to cry over a plug-in they have no use for.

I mean do you feel threatened by a plug-in that is trying to make the process less complicated and less time consuming with the same repetitive processes over and over again? When they can now simply call up a preset and start tweaking and expanding for a starting point?

It's not going to make anyone's "art" any better or worse, that comes from the decisions they made in the music and the choices they make with the transition tweaking. It's all adjustable and allows for creative solutions maybe people wouldn't of came up with on their own. Such as the random dice.

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Ah cool, a plugin by that bloke of YT I don't like. Lemme let everyone know I won't be buying it.
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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revvy wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:58 pm Ah cool, a plugin by that bloke of YT I don't like. Lemme let everyone know I won't be buying it.
This is a discussion thread for a new VST that was released for people to buy - people are entitled to both have, and share, an opinion. I promise you Huang doesn't care if you come out to bat for him. People shouldn't simp for "celebs".
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eerie_audio wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:18 pm I've always wondered why they named their company Baby Audio, now it makes sense. They turn a lot of haters into babies that seem to cry over a plug-in they have no use for.

I mean do you feel threatened by a plug-in that is trying to make the process less complicated and less time consuming with the same repetitive processes over and over again? When they can now simply call up a preset and start tweaking and expanding for a starting point?

It's not going to make anyone's "art" any better or worse, that comes from the decisions they made in the music and the choices they make with the transition tweaking. It's all adjustable and allows for creative solutions maybe people wouldn't of came up with on their own. Such as the random dice.
"Threatened" lmao. When a company release a thing, asking money for it, people are allowed to look at said product, opine as to its value vs its price and whether they want to support the product by exchanging currency for it. Nobody is threatened by this VST, but considering it isn't free and is just a time saving amalgam of FX with a global dry/wet - pointing that out can help others and I personally would save the cash and have full control.

Never simp for a company who don't care if you personally live or die.
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BriocheBaps wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:05 pm simp
:hyper:
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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zvenx wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:02 pm I rarely use automation. Rarely.
The ones i need to tweak in real time do
Infiltrator for instance, wah wah pedals etc.

rsp
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:47 pm
zvenx wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:05 pm Right, but as i know you know midi cc control is different thab automation.
rsp
What percentage of your FX plugins have a MIDI learn system for CC control of params? I've got well over a thousand plugins and I'd say only a small handful do.

It's not a problem for FX (instruments are a different story) as long as there are automation parameters.
Can the Cubase Transformer plugin convert (i.e. transform) MIDI CC to automation? Been a while since I used it.

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I like this - but I nearly ignored it because of the marketing which presents it as a 'transition fx tool' - I'm sure it can do that sort of thing but I wouldn't have been interested - however it is really a great multi-fx with easy morphing - very much a simpler but more modern Turnado (which I love but Sugarbytes seem to have forgotten about).
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BriocheBaps wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:08 pm
eerie_audio wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:18 pm I've always wondered why they named their company Baby Audio, now it makes sense. They turn a lot of haters into babies that seem to cry over a plug-in they have no use for.

I mean do you feel threatened by a plug-in that is trying to make the process less complicated and less time consuming with the same repetitive processes over and over again? When they can now simply call up a preset and start tweaking and expanding for a starting point?

It's not going to make anyone's "art" any better or worse, that comes from the decisions they made in the music and the choices they make with the transition tweaking. It's all adjustable and allows for creative solutions maybe people wouldn't of came up with on their own. Such as the random dice.
"Threatened" lmao. When a company release a thing, asking money for it, people are allowed to look at said product, opine as to its value vs its price and whether they want to support the product by exchanging currency for it. Nobody is threatened by this VST, but considering it isn't free and is just a time saving amalgam of FX with a global dry/wet - pointing that out can help others and I personally would save the cash and have full control.

Never simp for a company who don't care if you personally live or die.
Well since you've turned a simple question into a crusade, I'm guessing it does threaten your belief system or opinion. And the fact you ended your crusade with an insult of "simp", clearly indicates you feel some sort of personal attack by someone merely asking a question.

Let's move on and try to keep it rational and civilized, thank you.

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I don't think I have used input transformer for at least 15 years.
rsp
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:05 pm
zvenx wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:02 pm I rarely use automation. Rarely.
The ones i need to tweak in real time do
Infiltrator for instance, wah wah pedals etc.

rsp
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:47 pm
zvenx wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:05 pm Right, but as i know you know midi cc control is different thab automation.
rsp
What percentage of your FX plugins have a MIDI learn system for CC control of params? I've got well over a thousand plugins and I'd say only a small handful do.

It's not a problem for FX (instruments are a different story) as long as there are automation parameters.
Can the Cubase Transformer plugin convert (i.e. transform) MIDI CC to automation? Been a while since I used it.
sound sculptist

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Companies making plugins with annoying Youtubers rather than successful producers... meh.

I'm kidding, Bay Audio make good stuff and I'm sure this is great.

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dirtysnow wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:00 pm
BriocheBaps wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:37 pm Comes down to motivation to make your own solution, vs paying somebody else to save you the time.
I was starting to think I was the only one.
As with other tools that bring music creation closer to DJ'ing or rhythmic gaming I think it removes some of the artfulness. If you are using someone else's purpose built genre trope helper (it is marketed as a transition helper) are you trying to make art or are you trying to make a product?
exactly...this has been obvious since the huge expansion of the industry caused by the pandemic...the majority of the market is collecting plugins like baseball cards and playing dsp like video games...both of those are perfectly good hobbies, but they have nothing to do with music...you can tell by the releases and the discussions around them, the market is currently driven by dsp gamers
People still like risers?...everyone I know thinks these are one of the edm elements that have become cliche and thus make their eyes roll...to me this is what makes mouse music so formulaic, derivative, and unevocative...movement, tension, and excitement should come from the musical ideas in your arrangement and/or from your performance by actually playing the parts...If you need a plugin to "keep the listener interested", and that interest is supposed to be provided by a sweep between gimmicky multi-fx presets;...then you simply don't have a good song

And yes, this can be done by any plugin rack with macro controller design...many DAWs have this capability native...tracktion and mulab have had this capability for years...so of course bitwig has it
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke

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eerie_audio wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:25 pm
BriocheBaps wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:08 pm
eerie_audio wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:18 pm I've always wondered why they named their company Baby Audio, now it makes sense. They turn a lot of haters into babies that seem to cry over a plug-in they have no use for.

I mean do you feel threatened by a plug-in that is trying to make the process less complicated and less time consuming with the same repetitive processes over and over again? When they can now simply call up a preset and start tweaking and expanding for a starting point?

It's not going to make anyone's "art" any better or worse, that comes from the decisions they made in the music and the choices they make with the transition tweaking. It's all adjustable and allows for creative solutions maybe people wouldn't of came up with on their own. Such as the random dice.
"Threatened" lmao. When a company release a thing, asking money for it, people are allowed to look at said product, opine as to its value vs its price and whether they want to support the product by exchanging currency for it. Nobody is threatened by this VST, but considering it isn't free and is just a time saving amalgam of FX with a global dry/wet - pointing that out can help others and I personally would save the cash and have full control.

Never simp for a company who don't care if you personally live or die.
Well since you've turned a simple question into a crusade, I'm guessing it does threaten your belief system or opinion. And the fact you ended your crusade with an insult of "simp", clearly indicates you feel some sort of personal attack by someone merely asking a question.

Let's move on and try to keep it rational and civilized, thank you.
Says the guy calling people haters and babies...
Intel 12700H, 16gb 3700Mhz DDR4 RAM, 1TB Crucial PCIe4 NVME, Hiby FC3 DAC/AMP, Windows 11 22H2. DAW nomad.

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I didn’t try it (yet) but the user interface seems to be well designed, it looks very straightforward to use.

I think tools like these are useful even if you prefer to roll your own fx chains (for a finer level of control and/or to have “your own sound”), because they allow you to quickly try different solutions. Then, once you’re in the ballpark, you can always take the time to recreate the same fx chain with your own twists if you’re still not happy with the results.

Regarding the artist/influencer signature attached to a tool, that’s something I don’t really care for (as long as I don’t have any issue with that person, of course - I’m not a fan of Andrew Huang, but I have nothing against him either); in the end I’m going to use a tool, not an artist/influencer name. If a tool provides the results, then it’s good / possibly worth having it.

This plugin seems a nice tool. I’m not sure it will make it to my collection, as I already have some “multi-fx” plugins and I rarely use them, but I can see its value. Maybe it’s a bit on the “minimalist” side when it comes to controls / modulation sources, but it’s not necessarily a bad thing.

Just my two cents.
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