Is there a delay that sends each tap on it's own stereo out?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 158 posts since 1 Feb, 2022
I'm getting into delay effects. What I would really like is a delay that has a stereo out for each of it's taps. In EazyDrummer I can set each element on it's own out, and then processes effects per element. I would like to be able to do this per tap on a delay, add 8 tracks to my project, then set the source of each to one of the taps. Does this exist? I was going to get Blue Cat's Late Replies, but instead of loading plugins in plugins, being able to just process like I am already used to in Ableton would be huge for my workflow.
If it doesn't exist, is this something easily done in Max (I'm an Ableton user)?
If it doesn't exist, is this something easily done in Max (I'm an Ableton user)?
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gaggle of hermits gaggle of hermits https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=521655
- KVRian
- 964 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
if you’re not desperate to have a single gui for the delay, just bung a bunch of simple delays into their own chains in an effects rack. you don’t even need additional tracks unless you want to mix the results separately or make it easier to use sends.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 158 posts since 1 Feb, 2022
Way better solution. Thanks. I'll just do 8 tracks, each with a delay set to single tap but with different timing. I'm <politically incorrect statement>. Thanks for the assist!gaggle of hermits wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:50 pm if you’re not desperate to have a single gui for the delay, just bung a bunch of simple delays into their own chains in an effects rack. you don’t even need additional tracks unless you want to mix the results separately or make it easier to use sends.
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- KVRist
- 78 posts since 26 Jan, 2024
I might be wrong, but Cubase's MultiTap delay works along the lines of what you're asking, I think.
Ableton doesn't have one natively, but some dude on Reddit made something that you might like as a Max 4 Live device:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... _made_one/
Ableton doesn't have one natively, but some dude on Reddit made something that you might like as a Max 4 Live device:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... _made_one/
- KVRAF
- 10557 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
It's easiest to bounce the delayed audio then put it on a track with an Auto Pan synced to song tempo. Do this all the time in FL. You can do it as a send like that but it always helps in timing if I can see the wave.
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- KVRAF
- 4083 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
If you don't need the effects in the feedback loop then using many, very simple delays is probably the way to go. For a multi tap feedback processing system, I'd say that a setup like Max would be the way to go. Does max4live allow piping data between plugins like you could in pluggo?
Also reaktor has multiple outputs so this would be straightforward to build there. Really most modular DSP platforms would be fine.
Also reaktor has multiple outputs so this would be straightforward to build there. Really most modular DSP platforms would be fine.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35200 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Makes a lot of cool devices for Live and has a website too (with a couple of nice freebies).harddaysnight wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:32 pm ... some dude on Reddit made something that you might like as a Max 4 Live device:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... _made_one/
https://rainbowcircuit.gumroad.com/
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 158 posts since 1 Feb, 2022
But then I would have to bounce and update each of these tracks, and knowing me that would limit my threshold for being willing to make changes (but of course then be annoyed from then on that I didn't do the change and focus on hearing what I don't like). ShapperBox/FilterShaperXL shows me the wave and how I'm impacting as well so I should be good for a good chunk of my goto's.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 158 posts since 1 Feb, 2022
Erm... yeah compounding changes in the feedback loop is part of what I'm looking for so that wight mean going back to hosting the VSTs in Blue Cat's LateReplies or looking into Max. I haven't done Max programming, though have done lots of software development in a previous life.Ah_Dziz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:25 pm If you don't need the effects in the feedback loop then using many, very simple delays is probably the way to go. For a multi tap feedback processing system, I'd say that a setup like Max would be the way to go. Does max4live allow piping data between plugins like you could in pluggo?
Also reaktor has multiple outputs so this would be straightforward to build there. Really most modular DSP platforms would be fine.
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- KVRAF
- 4083 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
Max is pretty straight forward especially if you are familiar with coding syntax and how data is moved around in a digital system. I haven't played with vst hosting in Max ever but it's very possible. Depending on the plugins you wish to insert in the feedback path, you'll have to contend with any processing latency introduced by each plugin every time it feeds back to the delay input. There are plenty of good plugins that have zero latency processing so it shouldn't be too bad. I might have suggestions but I'm not sure exactly what you want to achieve sound wise.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.
- KVRian
- 649 posts since 12 May, 2004
You're not wrong. Cubase's Multitap does what the OP wants easily.harddaysnight wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:32 pm I might be wrong, but Cubase's MultiTap delay works along the lines of what you're asking, I think.
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- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 11 Jan, 2006 from Pittsburgh
This plugin might do what you want, and it's free: https://youtu.be/Hhphxdgil0w?si=gP2hOakozV64L68iROTMetro wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:37 pm I'm getting into delay effects. What I would really like is a delay that has a stereo out for each of it's taps. In EazyDrummer I can set each element on it's own out, and then processes effects per element. I would like to be able to do this per tap on a delay, add 8 tracks to my project, then set the source of each to one of the taps. Does this exist? I was going to get Blue Cat's Late Replies, but instead of loading plugins in plugins, being able to just process like I am already used to in Ableton would be huge for my workflow.
If it doesn't exist, is this something easily done in Max (I'm an Ableton user)?