Yes if you have signed up on the beta form we will notify you.Starship Krupa wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 6:35 pm Will you be posting announcements for newer builds? I assume that at some point we'll see another round of releases, if nothing but to fix the installer issues.
AIR Music Tech announces Open Beta: Apple Silicon and Windows 11 support for classic plugins
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 681 posts since 9 Jun, 2014 from UK
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- KVRAF
- 18604 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
The GUI issue has been raised by many people for years now and Air has never addressed it so I don't expect any different reaction now.machinesworking wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 6:07 pm Plus, it has to be stated what a PR mess it is not to address the GUI concerns raised by at least a half dozen people in this thread. Even saying you can't comment at this time is better than openly ignoring the question.
I've even offered to pay for such an upgrade in the past but it's far too late for that now.
They're still selling those old plugins and the only reason for this "update" is so they can sell them to more people.
I have no respect for Air and the people behind the brand these days. For them to say they "appreciate long-standing customers" is an insult to our intelligence.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 6319 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
I don't blame the Air team. People talk a lot about the downside of consolidated conglomerates and how that can mess with development. That's what we're getting here for sure. Air are the ancillary company to Akai at this point, I don't think that can be denied, most of the new plugins for the MPC (and VST/AU) have come from Air.Teksonik wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 4:48 pmThe GUI issue has been raised by many people for years now and Air has never addressed it so I don't expect any different reaction now.machinesworking wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 6:07 pm Plus, it has to be stated what a PR mess it is not to address the GUI concerns raised by at least a half dozen people in this thread. Even saying you can't comment at this time is better than openly ignoring the question.
I've even offered to pay for such an upgrade in the past but it's far too late for that now.
They're still selling those old plugins and the only reason for this "update" is so they can sell them to more people.
I have no respect for Air and the people behind the brand these days. For them to say they "appreciate long-standing customers" is an insult to our intelligence.
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It's not complicated, Akai has been able to maintain a reputation that makes the kinds of fire sales we've seen dozens of times from Air non existent. So we get Air crawling along like a company on it's last legs, and Akai releasing new products and free updates to older products at least a couple times a year. They both have the same money supply, InMusic, so InMusic determines the development budget for Air and what they develop. It's why you see new products from them that resemble the Air Instrument Collection products that work in MPC's. It's where the money is.
I'm glad to see the updates so we can at least use the older products, but I have to admit, I think I paid less than $150 for Loom, Loom II, Vacuum Pro, Hybrid 3, Transfuser, Air FX Collection, Xpand 2, and I bought them all separately over ten years ago.
Companies need revenue to churn out products, so what IMO we'll likely see is these plugins will become new Air/Akai MPC compatible products that are similar, that can run on MPCs. It's happened already with Vacuum Pro, Velvet, DB 33, Mini Grands and Structure. You have Fabric Collection, Tube Synth etc.
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- Banned
- 6 posts since 12 May, 2024
Transfuser is buggy as hell on Logic Pro
- KVRAF
- 18604 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
There's no one else to blame. The GUI issue predates the takeovers if my history is correct. It's been going on for many years.
So look at it from my perspective. I'm a still on Windows 10 and all my DAWs will load VST 2 plugins so this "update" brings nothing but disappointment that the main issue people have been bringing up for years still isn't addressed. At this point it's painfully clear that it never will be.
But yeah these "updates" are obviously a corporate style move.
Anyway I called up some of the 36 Air plugins I own today and...meh. I can let them slip into history without leaving any holes whatsoever in my collection. They all just look and sound outdated. Hybrid 3 with a refresh might be relevant these days but I just have so many modern plugins that have consistent support and updates that I don't need to use antiques.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 6319 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Yeah, it's Air hemorrhaging money, being bought out, and now just being Akai's b*tch.Teksonik wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 11:04 pmThere's no one else to blame. The GUI issue predates the takeovers if my history is correct. It's been going on for many years.
So look at it from my perspective. I'm a still on Windows 10 and all my DAWs will load VST 2 plugins so this "update" brings nothing but disappointment that the main issue people have been bringing up for years still isn't addressed. At this point it's painfully clear that it never will be.
But yeah these "updates" are obviously a corporate style move.
Anyway I called up some of the 36 Air plugins I own today and...meh. I can let them slip into history without leaving any holes whatsoever in my collection. They all just look and sound outdated. Hybrid 3 with a refresh might be relevant these days but I just have so many modern plugins that have consistent support and updates that I don't need to use antiques.
That said, as people have mentioned, Loom II is unique, so is Transfuser and Hybrid 3. I do hope I'm wrong and Air release new versions with resizable modern GUI's and some new features. Not all of the new Air products are MPC compatible so that's sort of a good sign. In the sense that they aren't going to only code software for an underpowered Arm CPU in the MPC's.
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- KVRer
- 28 posts since 15 Jul, 2013 from Perth, Australia
Is there a place to post screenshots as I could not see anything on the Beta feedback form.
I would like to see a few fixes not only to the VST3 but also the AU plugins.
Lots of crashing going on with Strike and Transfuser AU's
Also is the GUI for Strike going to be cleaned up on the Mix page? See attached Screenshot.
I would like to see a few fixes not only to the VST3 but also the AU plugins.
Lots of crashing going on with Strike and Transfuser AU's
Also is the GUI for Strike going to be cleaned up on the Mix page? See attached Screenshot.
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- KVRAF
- 35381 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Unfortunately none of these seem to support VST migration so anything made with the VST2 will not open the VST3 in its place. I hope that is planned