What workhorse synth would you buy if you couldn't get Omnisphere?

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noiseboyuk wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:19 am
egbert101 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:02 am
LFO8 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 8:54 am I would say that’s a very (unnecessarily) binary way of looking at it. It’s not a case of either/or.
Well that's your opinion. I don't think they are compatible.
Didn't seem to do Mozart any harm.
He was just a f**king piano preset whore.
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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revvy wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:22 am He was just a f**king piano preset whore.
Yeah. Hack.
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noiseboyuk wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:31 am
revvy wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:22 am He was just a f**king piano preset whore.
Yeah. Hack.
Not to mention he got absolutely destroyed in that beef with Falco

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digitalboytn wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:09 am I was only kidding...

I think that Wendy aka Walter is a funking genius :wink:
It was very clear for me that you were kidding. I was answering to the general debate.

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egbert101 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 7:19 am
Jac459 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 12:28 am My 2 cents on creativity vs presets.

While music production is a creative process, all steps of the process don't have to and SHOULDN'T be creative. Music is a subtle balance between expectations and surprises. If you release a music with unheard before sounds, using an unheard scale, using unheard structure using unheard production technique, your music will actually be perceived as noise. You need to keep points of references, in particular in view of the genre you are targeting.

Therefore part of the whole creativity process is to choose where you will be very innovative and where you will just follow trends. Historically for example, successful electronic music was 4 to the flour as it was so creative on the sound design part. Keeping the balance.

As a result, I reckon that people who are saying that if you use presets, you are not creative as a whole are just lacking maturity in their understanding of music production.
So you see music as a product rather than as piece of art. Correct?
What I said was a bit subtler than that but I doubt you can understand it. So my answer to you will be "yes" because I know it will l make you happy and your happiness does matter to me ❤️.

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revvy wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:22 am
noiseboyuk wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:19 am
egbert101 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:02 am
LFO8 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 8:54 am I would say that’s a very (unnecessarily) binary way of looking at it. It’s not a case of either/or.
Well that's your opinion. I don't think they are compatible.
Didn't seem to do Mozart any harm.
He was just a f**king piano preset whore.
LoL
You killed me on this one.

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noiseboyuk wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 6:33 am The older I've got, the more suspicious I have become of ideology.
More like wiser I would say.
In the world around me I see nothing but anger and division because people are driven down rabbit holes because of social or political ideology, where purity of thought is the only thing that matters. Now, in the grand scheme of things an ideology of music creation is pretty low down in the pantheon of social ills, but it's there somewhere at the bottom - that sneering snobbishness towards any creator who doesn't do things the right way, be it vintage hardware, pristine preamps or indeed the way you make synth sounds.
1000%

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I'm glad we collectively got to the bottom of a good workhorse synth alternative to omnisphere.

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Jac459 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:53 am
noiseboyuk wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 6:33 am The older I've got, the more suspicious I have become of ideology.
More like wiser I would say.
In the world around me I see nothing but anger and division because people are driven down rabbit holes because of social or political ideology, where purity of thought is the only thing that matters. Now, in the grand scheme of things an ideology of music creation is pretty low down in the pantheon of social ills, but it's there somewhere at the bottom - that sneering snobbishness towards any creator who doesn't do things the right way, be it vintage hardware, pristine preamps or indeed the way you make synth sounds.
1000%
Maybe someday you will actually have the wisdom to put into practice what you claim to agree with 1000%

Because if someone uses and enjoys Omnisphere or Falcon in ways you don't and points out things that are important to them but not you rather than just accept that fact you feel the need to jump all over them and prove them wrong based on your own opinions

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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 3:50 pm I'm glad we collectively got to the bottom of a good workhorse synth alternative to omnisphere.
There is no "I" in "team work" :D

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Jac459 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 6:14 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 3:50 pm I'm glad we collectively got to the bottom of a good workhorse synth alternative to omnisphere.
There is no "I" in "team work" :D
theres an "m" and an "e" though ;)

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and quite often,there is an "F" in effort ....
No auto tune...

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omnisphere

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sacer wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:44 pmomnisphere

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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 3:50 pm I'm glad we collectively got to the bottom of a good workhorse synth alternative to omnisphere.
:-? I thought we were talking about Mozart.

Wanders back out ...

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