How About Some Less Expensive Synths?

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So, the synth you want is like the one you sold because you didn't like it that much and you want that synth to be a bass-specific synth despite not liking another bass-specific synth that uses a very similar sound engine to the synths you do like from that vendor. Got it.

Have you considered that your conception of what's valuable and reality don't necessarily match up?

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tony10000 wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:56 pm
Gamma-UT wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:48 pm So, the synth you want is like the one you sold because you didn't like it that much and you want that synth to be a bass-specific synth despite not liking another bass-specific synth that uses a very similar sound engine to the synths you do like from that vendor. Got it.

Have you considered that your conception of what's valuable and reality don't necessarily match up?

Diva is a great synth. I didn't say that I didn't like it. I said that I prefer other synths in the u-he lineup, most of which cost less.

I think Diva does great bass sounds. However, so do a lot of other less expensive synths that I own.

I was just saying that I think that u-he could take some of that technology plus technology from other synths in the lineup to produce a feature-rich synth that is dedicated to monophonic bass sounds. If it was priced at $79, it would be something that I would buy.

I can run my mouth. Urs runs his company.

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tony10000 wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:07 pm
Russell Grand wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:14 pm I don't hate the OP's idea unlike most peeps in here, but I don't see it working out with u-he. However, as broke as I am, any music software that's inexpensive sounds good to me!
As I said before, I am not a cheapskate and own Zebra, ZebraHZ, Ace, Hive, Repro 1/5, and Bazille. (I had Diva but I sold it because I like the other u-he synths better). I also own many of the other popular synths out there from various manufacturers (Serum, Sylenth, Spire, Dune 2, Avenger, Synthmaster, Ana2, and many others). So, obviously, I have no problem paying a premium price for good synths.

I am just offering a suggestion of what may (or may not) be a good product idea. If it is not u-he's cup of tea, then I will wait patiently for someone else to do it. RPs Sub Boom Bass is a similar product but I am not thrilled with the implementation (although I do like and own Predator 2 and Go).
Fair enough, Tony. I never called you (or implied that you are) a cheapskate. On the contrary, I was calling myself a cheapskate. :hihi:
(Note: I'm not a cheapskate by choice. If I could afford expensive software, I'd certainly support devs and buy it!)

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Russell Grand wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:26 am
tony10000 wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:07 pm
Russell Grand wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:14 pm I don't hate the OP's idea unlike most peeps in here, but I don't see it working out with u-he. However, as broke as I am, any music software that's inexpensive sounds good to me!
As I said before, I am not a cheapskate and own Zebra, ZebraHZ, Ace, Hive, Repro 1/5, and Bazille. (I had Diva but I sold it because I like the other u-he synths better). I also own many of the other popular synths out there from various manufacturers (Serum, Sylenth, Spire, Dune 2, Avenger, Synthmaster, Ana2, and many others). So, obviously, I have no problem paying a premium price for good synths.

I am just offering a suggestion of what may (or may not) be a good product idea. If it is not u-he's cup of tea, then I will wait patiently for someone else to do it. RPs Sub Boom Bass is a similar product but I am not thrilled with the implementation (although I do like and own Predator 2 and Go).
Fair enough, Tony. I never called you (or implied that you are) a cheapskate. On the contrary, I was calling myself a cheapskate. :hihi:
(Note: I'm not a cheapskate by choice. If I could afford expensive software, I'd certainly support devs and buy it!)
I understand that. However, if you ask for less expensive synth options, some feel that you are too cheap to pay for decent quality tools. That is certainly not me. However, I do look for bargains and deals and determine what I buy based on its value to me. I certainly understand that everyone may not feel the same way.

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maybe by "less expensive" they are asking for more specialised stuff like repro1, but this seems unlikely as too many ppl were not happy with the monophonic status.

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Saw the title and thought..what the hell is the question doing under a u-he banner? they provide a selection of synths for free and have been known to work with magazine titles to offer restricted versions of some of their more expensive works...
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can’t get cheaper than free...or if you can, somebody share the information with me and I’llk buy you dinner...
I'm tired of being insane. I'm going outsane for some fresh air.

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People also always seem to forget about ACE. It's an excellent synth, really. You really get a lot for ~70€

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tony10000 wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:10 amHowever, if you ask for less expensive synth options
Every u-he synth is a less expensive synth option. Zebra is the most costly and at $200 is a freakin steal.

I've had Zebra for well over a decade and it has received at least 3 paid upgrades worth of improvements in that time, has been maintained, bug fixed and kept compatible with the changing computer landscape and I have not had to pay a single additional cent. It's an absurdly good deal.

When Zebra 3 finally comes, Urs said the price is going to be an upgrade of $30. Personally I think it is not enough and should be higher.

Diva received what could have been a paid upgrade which included the digital osc and the uhbie filter. Again no charge. We are in the middle of a huge increase in sonic flexibility with the addition of wavetables in Hive. Again no charge.

Every u-he synth is a less expensive synth option. They are all super cheap and amazing tools for musicians.

Want an expensive synth? The 16 voice Moog One costs $8000.

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+1 to previous post

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tony10000 wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:10 am
Russell Grand wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:26 am
tony10000 wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:07 pm
Russell Grand wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:14 pm I don't hate the OP's idea unlike most peeps in here, but I don't see it working out with u-he. However, as broke as I am, any music software that's inexpensive sounds good to me!
As I said before, I am not a cheapskate and own Zebra, ZebraHZ, Ace, Hive, Repro 1/5, and Bazille. (I had Diva but I sold it because I like the other u-he synths better). I also own many of the other popular synths out there from various manufacturers (Serum, Sylenth, Spire, Dune 2, Avenger, Synthmaster, Ana2, and many others). So, obviously, I have no problem paying a premium price for good synths.

I am just offering a suggestion of what may (or may not) be a good product idea. If it is not u-he's cup of tea, then I will wait patiently for someone else to do it. RPs Sub Boom Bass is a similar product but I am not thrilled with the implementation (although I do like and own Predator 2 and Go).
Fair enough, Tony. I never called you (or implied that you are) a cheapskate. On the contrary, I was calling myself a cheapskate. :hihi:
(Note: I'm not a cheapskate by choice. If I could afford expensive software, I'd certainly support devs and buy it!)
I understand that. However, if you ask for less expensive synth options, some feel that you are too cheap to pay for decent quality tools. That is certainly not me. However, I do look for bargains and deals and determine what I buy based on its value to me. I certainly understand that everyone may not feel the same way.
:tu:

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pdxindy wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:22 pm Every u-he synth is a less expensive synth option. Zebra is the most costly and at $200 is a freakin steal.
Considering that people do soundtracks/commericals/records using Z2 as their only synth it's actually a steal.

U-he is not the only VST synths manufacturer and not the most expensive one. So looking around could provide options.
Murderous duck!

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david.beholder wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:36 pm
pdxindy wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:22 pm Every u-he synth is a less expensive synth option. Zebra is the most costly and at $200 is a freakin steal.
Considering that people do soundtracks/commericals/records using Z2 as their only synth it's actually a steal.

U-he is not the only VST synths manufacturer and not the most expensive one. So looking around could provide options.
We covered a lot of this when I originally posted this many months ago. See previous posts on this thread. I was simply suggesting that a low cost mono synth dedicated to bass might be a good idea. Or might not.

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melomood wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:14 pm I would compare U-he freeware/magware synths favorably when stacked up against synths below 100
This. Those free synths are absolute beasts. I was torn between Zebra and Serum, and recalled I had Tyrell, cheese, baby bazille, and podolski. They kept me busy with presets for months until I had money for a full on synth. Needless to say, I bought Zebra to show gratitude to UHE, despite Serum being much easier to work with and having a slight edge on my “want scale.” Those baby synths are much better than many full priced synths.

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Butwug wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:47 am
melomood wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:14 pm I would compare U-he freeware/magware synths favorably when stacked up against synths below 100
This. Those free synths are absolute beasts. I was torn between Zebra and Serum, and recalled I had Tyrell, cheese, baby bazille, and podolski. They kept me busy with presets for months until I had money for a full on synth. Needless to say, I bought Zebra to show gratitude to UHE, despite Serum being much easier to work with and having a slight edge on my “want scale.” Those baby synths are much better than many full priced synths.
I absolutely agree!

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