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[SLiC]

https://maxforlive.com/ always worth checking periodically, but a 'cutting' tool in piano roll may need the new Live 12 MAX that seems to allow direct interaction with the piano roll section...

Here is a quick search of the current Euclidian stuff...https://maxforlive.com/library/index.ph ... =euclidian

[Trancit]

https://maxforlive.com/ always worth checking periodically, but a 'cutting' tool in piano roll may need the new Live 12 MAX that seems to allow direct interaction with the piano roll section...

Here is a quick search of the current Euclidian stuff...https://maxforlive.com/library/index.ph ... =euclidian

I would take a "cutting tool" in the PR too, but actually I would like better to have a midi fx device which works in realtime...
Sadly apart from audio gates and sequence generators it seems not to exist right now...

Anyway... it´s not a showstopper as I got 3rd party stuff atm... it just would have been nice to have this more or less natively in Live itself.
Thx all for their help so far!!

[liquidsound]

https://maxforlive.com/ always worth checking periodically, but a 'cutting' tool in piano roll may need the new Live 12 MAX that seems to allow direct interaction with the piano roll section...

Here is a quick search of the current Euclidian stuff...https://maxforlive.com/library/index.ph ... =euclidian

I would take a "cutting tool" in the PR too, but actually I would like better to have a midi fx device which works in realtime...
Sadly apart from audio gates and sequence generators it seems not to exist right now...

Anyway... it´s not a showstopper as I got 3rd party stuff atm... it just would have been nice to have this more or less natively in Live itself.
Thx all for their help so far!!

This one is not exactly what you want... but ...

Load an Arpeggiator, set it up to Random mode and whatever other details you want to experiment with.

Next, use an LFO, in Random mode (try 25% -75% Modulation depth), to modulate the Rate and Gate of the Arpeggiator (if you want Gate with another LFO, why not) and feed the track with a MIDI clip with a single note or whatever... (Of course, select an appropriate speed for the LFO)

Use your imagination to experiment. You can groove the Arp as well.

It's not "exactly" what you are asking for but it's fun... and close to a knife tool when the chef is not in the mood...

EDIT: Record the output (use Take Lanes for looping until...) to another MIDI Track and, when you think you like the recorded Patten, finalize the it with a Legato command; and that is as close as your "good mood" chef!

[Trancit]

This one is not exactly what you want... but ...

Load an Arpeggiator, set it up to Random mode and whatever other details you want to experiment with.

Next, use an LFO, in Random mode (try 25% -75% Modulation depth), to modulate the Rate and Gate of the Arpeggiator (if you want Gate with another LFO, why not) and feed the track with a MIDI clip with a single note or whatever... (Of course, select an appropriate speed for the LFO)

Use your imagination to experiment. You can groove the Arp as well.

It's not "exactly" what you are asking for but it's fun... and close to a knife tool when the chef is not in the mood...

EDIT: Record the output (use Take Lanes for looping until...) to another MIDI Track and, when you think you like the recorded Patten, finalize the it with a Legato command; and that is as close as your "good mood" chef!

Thx, but I take the max device or PR tool...

Seriously... that´s absolutely not what I want...
I use euclidian splitting first and foremost for bringing rhythm into chords...
A chord shall be still a chord afterwards but instead of playing for 1 or 2 bars sustained it shall play a rhythm after I have created the chord structure...euclidian gives me personally the best results...
That´s why I need something which works on existing notes instead of generating some sequence...

Yes, the arp could be a bit misused because of having the chord trigger mode but honestely before messing with some modulations of the rate of the arp I think it´s easier, more precise and probably faster to just edit the midi notes...

The arp could be helpful to get some happy accidents and some more experimental results though...
Thx anyway for all your effort to give some ideas!

[liquidsound]

This one is not exactly what you want... but ...

Load an Arpeggiator, set it up to Random mode and whatever other details you want to experiment with.

Next, use an LFO, in Random mode (try 25% -75% Modulation depth), to modulate the Rate and Gate of the Arpeggiator (if you want Gate with another LFO, why not) and feed the track with a MIDI clip with a single note or whatever... (Of course, select an appropriate speed for the LFO)

Use your imagination to experiment. You can groove the Arp as well.

It's not "exactly" what you are asking for but it's fun... and close to a knife tool when the chef is not in the mood...

EDIT: Record the output (use Take Lanes for looping until...) to another MIDI Track and, when you think you like the recorded Patten, finalize the it with a Legato command; and that is as close as your "good mood" chef!

Thx, but I take the max device or PR tool...

Seriously... that´s absolutely not what I want...
I use euclidian splitting first and foremost for bringing rhythm into chords...
A chord shall be still a chord afterwards but instead of playing for 1 or 2 bars sustained it shall play a rhythm after I have created the chord structure...euclidian gives me personally the best results...
That´s why I need something which works on existing notes instead of generating some sequence...

Yes, the arp could be a bit misused because of having the chord trigger mode but honestely before messing with some modulations of the rate of the arp I think it´s easier, more precise and probably faster to just edit the midi notes...

The arp could be helpful to get some happy accidents and some more experimental results though...
Thx anyway for all your effort to give some ideas!

I love experimenting…
After 12 comes out I’ll approach M4L and take it quite seriously.
Keep us posted if you find a good solution.

[Trancit]

I love experimenting…
After 12 comes out I’ll approach M4L and take it quite seriously.
Keep us posted if you find a good solution.

I will do!

[xbitz]

^^^ the 'Max For Live: For Musicians' is a very good starting point, I can recommend that one

https://www.macprovideo.com/library/application/Max

the last one in the first row

[SLiC]

Plenty of good free courses on YT as well, I liked this series
https://youtu.be/GvWN3zJY2ko?si=L_F_o0mfifCe6uHk

[SLiC]

This one rhythmically chops up audio in real time, looks fun....https://bloops.me/co-op/

https://youtu.be/C_kTtp8-CcU?si=uMMSxjN9nyEQpz_o

[liquidsound]

I love experimenting…
After 12 comes out I’ll approach M4L and take it quite seriously.
Keep us posted if you find a good solution.

I will do!

I think this is it…(?)
At 47:25 “Connect” option (for you would be on the same note)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNAJRRo ... e=emb_logo

[xbitz]

I put it here too, because it's free


https://manifest.audio/allmax/mod-squad-v2

[xbitz]

AL12, modulation devices no longer restrict access, but automation still does, so there is still a need for a device that can aggregate multiple sources. I spent almost an hour messing with it before I found one, here it is When I become smart, or someone else does, I will rewrite it for modulation.

https://maxforlive.com/library/device/5067/mwm-modmix

[Trancit]

I think this is it…(?)
At 47:25 “Connect” option (for you would be on the same note)
...

Looks at least interesting... will have a play around when the beta gets available to me...

[HydrogenHuman]

I posted this in the Ableton 12 thread, but this is a super cool piano roll device. Just goes to show how much potential Live 12 is going to bring to the piano roll!

https://youtu.be/8vKNbRG3WzQ?si=3wq7RfTCrkarNDcH

MGF just released an update to this device. It's really becoming awesome!

Hi everyone,

Thanks for using Chord Pallet! I wanted to let you know I've released a free update, you can grab it here:

https://mgfaudio.gumroad.com/l/chord_pallet

(It's also attached to this email).

If you like Chord Pallet please consider donating to MGF Audio via Gumroad or PayPal here. Thanks very much to those who have donated so far! I've got more great tools to share with you soon.

I've added a few features and tightened things up. Here's what's new:

- MIDI mappable via companion Link device
- Visual refresh. Inv is now directly next to the chord name.
- Optional Auto mode will automatically place chords as soon as you click a note
- 9 pages of chord banks instead of 5
- New chords - many chords with flat notes were accidentally (hah!) missing. Now using b instead of ♭ in code and elsewhere. Also added Jazz guitar shell chords and re-arranged the Major chord section to be more user-friendly.
- Oct functions - similar to Inv but for adding octaves
- Get chord from piano roll - shift click a chord's button to convert any highlighted notes into a User chord
- Inv, oct, strum, and jitter now update "live"
- Fixed bug in strum that could generate duplicate notes
- Fixed a bug with custom chords that stopped the textbox from scrolling
- Correct order of strum notes - previously Inv values would result in incorrect order
- Changed functionality when moving Inv - if an existing chord is in the selection, Inv will not alter the chord. If you still want to change them, press the Chord Button instead. Moving the Inv control will not update in realtime in this scenario (for now).

Cheers and I hope you are enjoying Chord Pallet!

-MGF

[SLiC]

It’s starting to look like the killer feature in Live 12 is the new level of Max integration and palette of new Max tools…going to be an interesting 2024!