If you could have any Genesis sound...
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- KVRAF
- 8388 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
...All of the sounds in the original studio take of Cinema Show. I realise that most of them can be created with more or less thought, depending on the patch.
Synth sounds on:
>Colony of Slippermen.
>Riding the scree.
>In that Quiet Earth/ Unquiet Slumber for the sleepers (esp the swung part).
>Solo in Musical Box
Guitar sounds on:
>Solo in Musical Box
>In the Cage (that kind of overchorused/ ultra tremolo)
>Apocalypse in 9/8 (I realise that part of that is the choice of voicing, but it's a great sound)
>The combined synth and guitar sounds used in that break in 'Ikhnaton And Itsacon And Their Band Of Merry Men' on Supper's Ready.
..I guess that should be enuff for now!
DSP
oh, and:
>Phil Collins Tambourine from the 'I know what I like' solo;
>and the bit where he forgot to come in during the intro of Supper's ready at the Rainbow in 1973 (the Jerusalem Boogie bit )
Synth sounds on:
>Colony of Slippermen.
>Riding the scree.
>In that Quiet Earth/ Unquiet Slumber for the sleepers (esp the swung part).
>Solo in Musical Box
Guitar sounds on:
>Solo in Musical Box
>In the Cage (that kind of overchorused/ ultra tremolo)
>Apocalypse in 9/8 (I realise that part of that is the choice of voicing, but it's a great sound)
>The combined synth and guitar sounds used in that break in 'Ikhnaton And Itsacon And Their Band Of Merry Men' on Supper's Ready.
..I guess that should be enuff for now!
DSP
oh, and:
>Phil Collins Tambourine from the 'I know what I like' solo;
>and the bit where he forgot to come in during the intro of Supper's ready at the Rainbow in 1973 (the Jerusalem Boogie bit )
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- KVRAF
- 10080 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
Eno was involved in 'Colony of Slippermen'.aMUSEd wrote:There are some fantastic glitchy and blippy electronica sounds in Colony of SlipperMen and Doktor Dyper (from Lamb lies down) - tried replicating them myself before
Oh and the beautiful haunting synth sounds in Hairless heart
"It dreamed itself along"
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- KVRist
- 50 posts since 3 May, 2005
I've always loved a lot of the sounds Genesis used. Some favorites:
Other than keyboard sounds, and Amplitube 2 patch replicating the wierd guitar sounds that Hackett got in the live version of Los Endos from Seconds Out album would be cool.
- 1.) The swelling strings during the solo in Firth of Fifth. I think that's a readily available Mellotron sound though.
2.) The choir in the middle and end of Los Endos. But this is also a readily available Mellotron sound.
3.) The Moog Taurus bass in Afterglow. Readily available these days.
- 4.) The choir pad at the end of Afterglow. It doesn't quite sound like a Mellotron. I'm not sure what instrument that is. It's very pretty though. I'd like to have a sound like that available in my studio. I have Eleventh Earl of Mar playing now. It sounds like they use that sound in the dreamy part in the middle of that song too. I'm listening to Down and Out now. They have the same sound swelling in during the choruses.
5.) The lush string pad in the intro and outro of All in a Mouse's Night.
6.) The chimey sound that doubles the nylon string guitar in Blood on the Rooftops.
7.) The little whistley sounding synth that comes in and out on Snowbound.
8.) The shimmery, arpeggiated sounding pad in the choruses in Snowbound.
Other than keyboard sounds, and Amplitube 2 patch replicating the wierd guitar sounds that Hackett got in the live version of Los Endos from Seconds Out album would be cool.
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- KVRAF
- 2856 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
I agree. But I also like the 90s (commercial) Genesis, so I like the pads on the Invisible Touch and We can't Dance CDs. For all I know they are stock sounds from a Korg or Roland keyboards, but in the hands of Tony Banks.... e He can make a simple synth string pad into a thing of beauty.Squids wrote:I like that one too. One of my favorite pads is the one that comes in halfway through Mama.Reverend Rhythm wrote:I know it's clichéd but I like the pad on No Son of Mine. I know it's easy and simple, but I like it.
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- KVRAF
- 3332 posts since 7 Aug, 2008
I like the "swirly sounds" in two mid-era songs:
1) "Me and Sarah Jane"--The keyboard during the part with "First I'm flying going round and round..."
2) The part of Duke's Travels right before the reprise of Guide Vocal ("I am the one..")
How about the weird keyboards in "Whodunnit?" (I'm serious!)
I'd also really like to see how to program some of the cool drum machine beats they've used through the years (e.g. "Mama", Intro to "Me and Sarah Jane", "Duchess"). I've got samples from most of the machines they used, but often I can't quite figure out how to make the beat just right.
--JSP
1) "Me and Sarah Jane"--The keyboard during the part with "First I'm flying going round and round..."
2) The part of Duke's Travels right before the reprise of Guide Vocal ("I am the one..")
How about the weird keyboards in "Whodunnit?" (I'm serious!)
I'd also really like to see how to program some of the cool drum machine beats they've used through the years (e.g. "Mama", Intro to "Me and Sarah Jane", "Duchess"). I've got samples from most of the machines they used, but often I can't quite figure out how to make the beat just right.
--JSP
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- KVRAF
- 35404 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I know (also in Back in NYC)mellotronaut wrote:Eno was involved in 'Colony of Slippermen'.aMUSEd wrote:There are some fantastic glitchy and blippy electronica sounds in Colony of SlipperMen and Doktor Dyper (from Lamb lies down) - tried replicating them myself before
Oh and the beautiful haunting synth sounds in Hairless heart
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- KVRAF
- 10080 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
well, i have some 'Watcher ... ' sounds already . So, i'd like to have the electric guitar sound (Hackett) from the second part of 'After the Ordeal' (Selling England ... ) and the jazzy guitar (which almost sounds like a keyboard; not the fingered one, the picked one) in 'Aisle of Plenty'.
Lots of others ... .
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Lots of others ... .
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- KVRist
- 176 posts since 28 Dec, 2002 from Naperville, IL, USA
Hmm.
Tony Banks -
Various organ sounds of interest:
"The Knife"
from the end of "The Musical Box"
solo from "Supper's Ready"
"In the Cage"
All of the organ sounds on "A Trick of the Tail"
"The 11th Earl of Mar"
"Afterglow"
Various Piano/Electric Piano:
"Return of the Giant Hogweed"
"Supper's Ready"
"Undertow"
"Duchess"
Various Mellotron sounds:
"The Fountain of Salmacis"
"Watcher of the Skies"
"Entangled"
"Blood on the Rooftops"
Various Synth tones:
"The Cinema Show"
solo(s) on "In the Cage, The Colony of Slipperman, Riding the Scree, it"
solo on "Robbery, Assault and Battery"
"Wot Gorilla?"
... In That Quiet Earth
"Down and Out"
"Duke's Travels"
Mike Rutherford
Bass Pedals on:
"Back in NYC", "Dance on a Volcano", "Squonk", "Los Endos", "Down in the Motherlode", "Man of our Times"
Bass Guitar:
"The Knife"
"The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway"
"Robbery Assault and Battery"
"The Lady Lies"
12 String:
all of them
non-12 String:
solo on "Burning Rope", "Cul de Sac", "Abacab", "Calling All Stations"
Steve Hackett:
pretty much every single tone, especially the solos on "The Musical Box, Return of the Giant Hogweed, The Fountain of Salmacis, Can-Utility and the Coastliners, Supper's Ready, Dancing with the Moonlit Knight, Firth of Fifth, Los Endos, The 11th Earl of Mar, One for the Vine, All in a Mouse's Night".
Phil Collins:
"The Lamb" era kit and "Duke", of course.
Peter Gabriel:
Flute from "Firth of Fifth", bass drum from "The Musical Box"
Anthony Phillips:
12 String on "Stagnation"
Lead on "The Knife"
Edit: forgot the Synthi sound from Steve on "Counting out Time", and the solo at the end of "Dance on a Volcano"
Another Edit:
Also every instrument on "Seven Stones" - just love that track.
Tony Banks -
Various organ sounds of interest:
"The Knife"
from the end of "The Musical Box"
solo from "Supper's Ready"
"In the Cage"
All of the organ sounds on "A Trick of the Tail"
"The 11th Earl of Mar"
"Afterglow"
Various Piano/Electric Piano:
"Return of the Giant Hogweed"
"Supper's Ready"
"Undertow"
"Duchess"
Various Mellotron sounds:
"The Fountain of Salmacis"
"Watcher of the Skies"
"Entangled"
"Blood on the Rooftops"
Various Synth tones:
"The Cinema Show"
solo(s) on "In the Cage, The Colony of Slipperman, Riding the Scree, it"
solo on "Robbery, Assault and Battery"
"Wot Gorilla?"
... In That Quiet Earth
"Down and Out"
"Duke's Travels"
Mike Rutherford
Bass Pedals on:
"Back in NYC", "Dance on a Volcano", "Squonk", "Los Endos", "Down in the Motherlode", "Man of our Times"
Bass Guitar:
"The Knife"
"The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway"
"Robbery Assault and Battery"
"The Lady Lies"
12 String:
all of them
non-12 String:
solo on "Burning Rope", "Cul de Sac", "Abacab", "Calling All Stations"
Steve Hackett:
pretty much every single tone, especially the solos on "The Musical Box, Return of the Giant Hogweed, The Fountain of Salmacis, Can-Utility and the Coastliners, Supper's Ready, Dancing with the Moonlit Knight, Firth of Fifth, Los Endos, The 11th Earl of Mar, One for the Vine, All in a Mouse's Night".
Phil Collins:
"The Lamb" era kit and "Duke", of course.
Peter Gabriel:
Flute from "Firth of Fifth", bass drum from "The Musical Box"
Anthony Phillips:
12 String on "Stagnation"
Lead on "The Knife"
Edit: forgot the Synthi sound from Steve on "Counting out Time", and the solo at the end of "Dance on a Volcano"
Another Edit:
Also every instrument on "Seven Stones" - just love that track.
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 18 Feb, 2005 from Barcelona
There are a lot of good sounds that come to my mind when thinking on Genesis, but for me the Trade Marks are the Hammond and Mellotron pads (like in "Seven Stones"), the Rickenbaker bass, all the string thinguies and the guitar sound (like the solo at the end of "The Lamia")
All too general, but it's hard to choose
All too general, but it's hard to choose
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- KVRist
- 214 posts since 7 Oct, 2004
+1ians wrote: If you are thinking of something along the lines of Amplitube Steve Hackett then count me in.
Ian
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- KVRAF
- 10080 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
duncanparsons wrote: >and the bit where he forgot to come in during the intro of Supper's ready at the Rainbow in 1973 (the Jerusalem Boogie bit )
"It dreamed itself along"
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- KVRist
- 117 posts since 12 Mar, 2002
I was going to say that, dangit!!jsp1979 wrote:I like the "swirly sounds" in two mid-era songs:
1) "Me and Sarah Jane"--The keyboard during the part with "First I'm flying going round and round..."
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
This isn't Genesis per se*, but that sharp, clear, crystalline guitar (12-string?) in Anthony Philips' "The Geese and the Ghost." Right at 8:07 it's at its most fur-raisingly glittery. Less than three. Also right at 10:51 when everything kicks in. Glorious stuff that.
[edit: I'd also like a photo of the "Send Barns Orchestra and Barge Rabble conducted by Jeremy Gilbert" but that's another matter for another discussion. Also, I think maybe I'm hearing TWO twelve-string guitars, one played by Philips and one by Mike Rutherford. Whatever it is, I love it.]
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* Closely connected with Genesis, at least one or two other Genesis members performed on that "solo" album IIRC.
[edit: I'd also like a photo of the "Send Barns Orchestra and Barge Rabble conducted by Jeremy Gilbert" but that's another matter for another discussion. Also, I think maybe I'm hearing TWO twelve-string guitars, one played by Philips and one by Mike Rutherford. Whatever it is, I love it.]
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* Closely connected with Genesis, at least one or two other Genesis members performed on that "solo" album IIRC.
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- KVRian
- 1023 posts since 21 Aug, 2006 from toronto, on
<flips over to Genesis playlist in iTunes for a quick audition...>
forgive me if these have been mentioned up-thread:
The Knife:
The distorted square-wavey bass sound
Land of Confusion:
Squelchy synth bass
The Domino:
Squelchy synth bass
there're many other synth sounds listed up-thread that I would echo, too.
mostly, I think they're clever layering and production, but analyzing them is beyond me I fear.
What I'd love to have bottled: the magic in Tony Banks's hands.
forgive me if these have been mentioned up-thread:
The Knife:
The distorted square-wavey bass sound
Land of Confusion:
Squelchy synth bass
The Domino:
Squelchy synth bass
there're many other synth sounds listed up-thread that I would echo, too.
mostly, I think they're clever layering and production, but analyzing them is beyond me I fear.
What I'd love to have bottled: the magic in Tony Banks's hands.
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