Composition: Inspiration vs Perspiration?
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
TBH, while I typically have stuff going on 24/7, I have wetter spells than others, meaning that there are times where I'm not finding the smooth path to realizing an idea. And I do have to lay some real crap out there and stumble around a bit. But I don't mind stepping far away from process as well, and I have an instinct now when I've laid down a track I'm going to need to distance myself from and get a fresh perspective.
I'm not qualified to really speak to how you stay 'in it' with lyrics. I had a facility with 'lyrics' or poetry before I got writing music very together, but it was never something I felt driven to manufacture. So I believe that did rather rely on inspiration than a method or discipline.
I'm not qualified to really speak to how you stay 'in it' with lyrics. I had a facility with 'lyrics' or poetry before I got writing music very together, but it was never something I felt driven to manufacture. So I believe that did rather rely on inspiration than a method or discipline.
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- KVRian
- 1145 posts since 29 Jun, 2012
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 19 Sep, 2014
Paul Simon says he usually writes the melody first and the words follow. He articulates it pretty well in an interview with Tom Moon if anyone wants to Google it for ideas. Hope that helps.jancivil wrote:TBH, while I typically have stuff going on 24/7, I have wetter spells than others, meaning that there are times where I'm not finding the smooth path to realizing an idea. And I do have to lay some real crap out there and stumble around a bit. But I don't mind stepping far away from process as well, and I have an instinct now when I've laid down a track I'm going to need to distance myself from and get a fresh perspective.
I'm not qualified to really speak to how you stay 'in it' with lyrics. I had a facility with 'lyrics' or poetry before I got writing music very together, but it was never something I felt driven to manufacture. So I believe that did rather rely on inspiration than a method or discipline.
Every time I write lyrics first, it's a problem getting them to fit with whatever melody I think will compliment them. So I understand that aspect of his approach. He's got more to say on how the sound suggests the words he comes up with.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 10709 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Somewhere near the Morgul Vale.
Again, thanks for sharing your views on this topic.
I often write lyrics first, but usually it's the music. Keith Richards, in his autobio, said that he'd just start singing nonsense to the music, until something coherent popped out of his unconscious.
I've been mostly noodling around on my guitars, as well as doodling around with my softsynths. I often come up with decent ideas to begin with, but when I try to develop them, they go nowhere. I guess I need to roll up my sleeves and just do it.
Cheers,
Bombadillo.
I often write lyrics first, but usually it's the music. Keith Richards, in his autobio, said that he'd just start singing nonsense to the music, until something coherent popped out of his unconscious.
I've been mostly noodling around on my guitars, as well as doodling around with my softsynths. I often come up with decent ideas to begin with, but when I try to develop them, they go nowhere. I guess I need to roll up my sleeves and just do it.
Cheers,
Bombadillo.
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 19 Sep, 2014
Bono does the same thing!Bombadil wrote:Keith Richards, in his autobio, said that he'd just start singing nonsense to the music, until something coherent popped out of his unconscious.
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- KVRAF
- 3332 posts since 7 Aug, 2008
Phil Collins does as well.AudioPhile2 wrote:Bono does the same thing!Bombadil wrote:Keith Richards, in his autobio, said that he'd just start singing nonsense to the music, until something coherent popped out of his unconscious.
You can see a bit here with Genesis (see at the 7:10 mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... UHH8#t=366