KVR Audio

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:54 am

themachinelt wrote:
chk071 wrote:Neither the supersaw in Dune 2 sounds near as good as the one in Sylenth1
Are you sure? Dune 2 supersaw sounds better then my virus, it has more body and strenght, im not sure if we are talking about same Dune 2. Sylenth1 lacks the body and the top end is very strident/harsh in a bad way, you definatly dont want to use that for supersaws.

Just compare couple of soundsets from same preset designer. Sylenth1 is so thin, you must have very small boomy speakers not to notice that.

I listened to the 2 Vandalism soundsets and I like the Dune 2 one better. Sylenth has that muddy or maybe incoherent quality to the mid bass... It always reminds me of a boombox with the bass boost on... It can make a thump, but it is not the same as a speaker than can naturally hit the bass notes.

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:03 am

chk071 wrote:You are aware though that Sylenth1 has been THE choice for all kinds of different EDM music and especially for the supersaw type sounds pretty much since its release right? Fair enough if you think that Dune's supersaw sounds better than the one of your Virus, i still say it isn't up to par with Sylenth1's, nor with that of other synths. And i still say it has a thin and fizzy sound which already was prominent on Dune 1 too. Both are valid opinions, but the hype around Sylenth1 surely doesn't come out of nowhere, if other synths were perfectly capable of the same kind of thing, they'd surely would find more usage (and create an equal hype) too.

Yes and it was my choice also 7 years ago

And dont forget the choices are usualy made by recommendation popularity and synth being a classic and so on

Sylenth1 is a classic, its been around for years, it has been promoted by big names at the time well when Sylenth1 was actually best option if you dont want to cash on hardware, wich made its mark wich makes it dificult ordinary Joe to convince or to show that there is another tool to do that thing only better. Ive worked with many producers in dance music and believe me even most famous dont know much besides Virus, Nexus, Sylenth1, Z3ta+ 1.. So here is your answer why its so popular.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:10 am

themachinelt wrote:
chk071 wrote:You are aware though that Sylenth1 has been THE choice for all kinds of different EDM music and especially for the supersaw type sounds pretty much since its release right? Fair enough if you think that Dune's supersaw sounds better than the one of your Virus, i still say it isn't up to par with Sylenth1's, nor with that of other synths. And i still say it has a thin and fizzy sound which already was prominent on Dune 1 too. Both are valid opinions, but the hype around Sylenth1 surely doesn't come out of nowhere, if other synths were perfectly capable of the same kind of thing, they'd surely would find more usage (and create an equal hype) too.
Yes and it was my choice also 7 years ago

And dont forget the choices are usualy made by recommendation popularity and synth being a classic and so on Sylenth1 is a classic, its been around for years, it has been promoted by big names at the time well when Sylenth1 was actually best option if you dont want to cash on hardware, wich made its mark wich makes it dificult ordinary Joe to convince or to show that there is another tool to do that thing only better. Ive worked with many producers in dance music and believe me even most famous dont know much besides Virus, Nexus, Sylenth1, Z3ta+ 1.. So here is your answer why its so popular.

Plus it and many soundsets were super easy to pirate

Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:14 am

..And super cheap for any CPU. But yeah, I think it's the most pirated audio software ever. You can even see a lot of Youtube videos from a lot of high profile producers running cracked versions shamelessly.

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:14 am

all software self destructs after 10 years.

CapnLockheed · Post by **CapnLockheed** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:59 am

I'll gladly buy that old Moog from you.....seeing as how there are newer synths with more features for less money now.....

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:08 am

Astralv wrote:Hey there. Sylenth 1 is on sale at $99. I don't have it yet and I see many 3rd party sound libraries for it. I am wondering if it is still able to compete against newer synths and if I need it. I have all other synths available on the market. Is it really such a great synth for today? I compose EDM, trance, dubstep. Thank you.

yes, it's fabulous.

Dúnedain · Post by **Dúnedain** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:31 am

This one is high on my list. Think it is a good balance between easy to understand and power to create a wide range of sounds. Dune 2 has 3 osc and just 1 filter. Sylenth has 4 osc and 2 filters together with some routing flexibility. Should make it easier to stack sounds.

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:35 am

Dúnedain wrote:This one is high on my list. Think it is a good balance between easy to understand and power to create a wide range of sounds. Dune 2 has 3 osc and just 1 filter. Sylenth has 4 osc and 2 filters together with some routing flexibility. Should make it easier to stack sounds.

Sylenth1 has 2 oscs and 2 layers wich makes 4 oscs.

Dne has 8 layers and aditional distortion/filter. So 3osc x8 thats 24 total.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:35 am

Dúnedain wrote:This one is high on my list. Think it is a good balance between easy to understand and power to create a wide range of sounds. Dune 2 has 3 osc and just 1 filter. Sylenth has 4 osc and 2 filters together with some routing flexibility. Should make it easier to stack sounds.

IIRC, Dune2 has 24 Osc's and 8 filters... (8 layers)

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:31 am

Sylenth does the best psytrance bass on the planet, and also very tasty psy squelches.

Aside from these specific tasks, Sylenth is good when you need basic synth sounds with decent quality at minimum effort. It is very limited but good at what it does. Newer synths, like Spire, Diva and Serum have more textured and detailed sound but it comes with more CPU hit. As for EDM, Sylenth is not a musthave now but is good option if you are just starting out or have a slow machine unable to run new CPU hungry synths. There are also tons of soundbanks for Sylenth but they mostly sound the same because the architecture of the synth doesn't allow much variety, i wouldn't buy Sylenth just for soundbanks.

Dúnedain · Post by **Dúnedain** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:11 am

themachinelt wrote:
Dúnedain wrote:This one is high on my list. Think it is a good balance between easy to understand and power to create a wide range of sounds. Dune 2 has 3 osc and just 1 filter. Sylenth has 4 osc and 2 filters together with some routing flexibility. Should make it easier to stack sounds.
Sylenth1 has 2 oscs and 2 layers wich makes 4 oscs.

Dne has 8 layers and aditional distortion/filter. So 3osc x8 thats 24 total.

No, Sylenth is just one layer and 2 filters and 4 osc per layer.
Dune2 has 8 layers, but I can easily create 8 layers of Sylenth by just running 8 instances of them.

This is the sound flow in Sylenth1:

So to answer the initial question "Is Sylenth still good?": yes!

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:47 am

recursive one wrote:Sylenth does the best psytrance bass on the planet, and also very tasty psy squelches.

If you discount the nord lead

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:02 am

do_androids_dream wrote:
recursive one wrote:Sylenth does the best psytrance bass on the planet, and also very tasty psy squelches.
If you discount the nord lead

Hardware synths are an urban legend, they don't exist. At least, I've never seen them in reality.

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:12 am

recursive one wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote:
recursive one wrote:Sylenth does the best psytrance bass on the planet, and also very tasty psy squelches.
If you discount the nord lead
Hardware synths are an urban legend, they don't exist. At least, I've never seen them in reality.

lol - that's how it seems around here actually

Is the Sylenth 1 still good?