That's exactly the way that (masterpiece of an...) album sounds to me. 'Warm' makes me think of things like D Train 'You're The One For Me', Surface 'Falling In Love' and countless other tracks from that time when analogue synths started to become common in disco. Probably my favourite era of mixing/production - everything had dynamics, weight, space, depth... oh, and warmth by the bucketload (stuff for another thread really...).deastman wrote:For me, Music Has the Right to Children was anything but "warm". I think of it as desolate, melancholy, cold Autumn winds, a barren plain, nostalgic in a sorrowfully, achingly longing sort of way.
absolute softest and warmest synth in existence?
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do_androids_dream do_androids_dream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164034
- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
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- 2273 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
BBFG# wrote:fluffy_little_something wrote:Glassy and crystal imply the opposite of warm in my opinion...AstralExistence wrote:i now realize what kind of synth i want. what kind of synth makes the kind of sounds that would fit this criteria. i admit i have zebra but its just not as crystal/glass sounding as im looking for. can be any synth analog, digital, fm etc. etc. im looking for beyond beautiful. distortion/noise is not what i consider beautiful.
+1 in mine too.
As polarizing as 'absolute... in existence'.
when i say warm, i mean like very soft and non aggressive sounding. the kind of sounds that you would hear in a score from the 80s or in ambient/new age music. when i say crystal, i mean like flawless as in a diamond but i used the term crystal, because when something is very clear its crystal clear, not diamond clear. i don't mean crystal as in glass/digital sounding. if thats what i was looking for that would be zebra since its very glassy sounding like a wavestation or korg synth.
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- KVRAF
- 9187 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I would include DominatorCM, coded by Annti. One of the greatestAstralExistence wrote:i now realize what kind of synth i want. what kind of synth makes the kind of sounds that would fit this criteria. i admit i have zebra but its just not as crystal/glass sounding as im looking for. can be any synth analog, digital, fm etc. etc. im looking for beyond beautiful. distortion/noise is not what i consider beautiful.
of unheralded, under the radar instruments.
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do_androids_dream do_androids_dream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164034
- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
Or even Augur (another one Annti coded) - can produce very warm, yet glassy pads (It was an emulation of the Prophet VS - a very beautiful sounding synth). If you do give it a try make sure you download the 'Ann' patches to hear what it's capable of.glokraw wrote:I would include DominatorCM, coded by Annti. One of the greatestAstralExistence wrote:i now realize what kind of synth i want. what kind of synth makes the kind of sounds that would fit this criteria. i admit i have zebra but its just not as crystal/glass sounding as im looking for. can be any synth analog, digital, fm etc. etc. im looking for beyond beautiful. distortion/noise is not what i consider beautiful.
of unheralded, under the radar instruments.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
+1glokraw wrote:I would include DominatorCM, coded by Annti. One of the greatestAstralExistence wrote:i now realize what kind of synth i want. what kind of synth makes the kind of sounds that would fit this criteria. i admit i have zebra but its just not as crystal/glass sounding as im looking for. can be any synth analog, digital, fm etc. etc. im looking for beyond beautiful. distortion/noise is not what i consider beautiful.
of unheralded, under the radar instruments.
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Ya know, I bet this discussion would get somewhere a whole lot faster if we actually posted demos of the synths/sounds in question. Just saying...
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
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- 2273 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
i did but nobody replied. i wrote back on page 2:deastman wrote:Ya know, I bet this discussion would get somewhere a whole lot faster if we actually posted demos of the synths/sounds in question. Just saying...
heres an example. i should state how i made it so you know what its doing. its all made from init, obxd, valhalla vintage, tal chorus, blue cat chorus, the new vos eq, and ferox. so you can see what i mean when i say warm .to me this is very warm sounding. i would have more but im still looking for that synth that will give me the sound im after. i just got my new very fast pc so i dont have much gear right now due to my old pc not being able to run todays vst/i
http://www.sendspace.com/file/t6k23a
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- KVRAF
- 5118 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
PolyKB
MuLab of course
- KVRian
- 1339 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from New York
I don't really understand the point of the Topic but most Synths can do what we want if we know how to do it...now, is there anything wrong with the Example i posted below?
http://www73.zippyshare.com/v/25530374/file.html
http://www73.zippyshare.com/v/25530374/file.html
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
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- 2273 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
that's warm i would say. but, there's just a bit of digitalness to it on the lower registered sounds and a bit of noise in the modulation. imo. its warm yes, but it sounds just a 'bit' digital. still a pretty pad though. what synth is that?BasariStudios wrote:I don't really understand the point of the Topic but most Synths can do what we want if we know how to do it...now, is there anything wrong with the Example i posted below?
http://www73.zippyshare.com/v/25530374/file.html
do you think that this sounds warm?
http://www.sendspace.com/file/t6k23a
- KVRAF
- 2033 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA
It's really difficult to assign words to sound in a universal way because it's so subjective, but when people use the term "warm" to describe synthesizers this is the kind of timbre that first comes to mind:
Soft Pad
Could this be considered warm?
Soft Pad
Could this be considered warm?
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- KVRAF
- 15533 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
It's the recurring theme of "tell me what to buy" which becomes a list of every softsynth known to man.BasariStudios wrote:I don't really understand the point of the Topic
I don't think that's exactly right. Most synths can create a variety of sounds, some synths do a better job than others, in general, but almost always for particular kinds of sounds. It's hard to get a JP8 to sound like a microwave and vice versa. Among analog hardware and their software counterparts, it often comes down to implementation of filter quality. That said, your point is well taken, the OP should post an example of the patch that he thinks Zebra can't do, and his best attempt for mimicking it, with the patch. That way people can perhaps hone in on what he's going on about.but most Synths can do what we want if we know how to do it
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- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Language has a problem with describing sound as it's a very intimate and personal experience (which is, of course, why we are attracted to it so much), but I think words like "warm" and "glassy" are pretty easy to define and have a consensus on.
Warmth denotes a lack of harshness, no harsh transients, and not a lot of high end. If there is high end, it's very measured (think of the profile of brown(ian) noise). If there are transients (in the case of, say, a warm drum loop) they are somewhat blurred and smooth, like hot tape.
Similarly glassy brings to mind certain spectra, with a clear but not harsh high end consisting of unusually wide spacing between partials or partial clusters. In FM these sounds can be made with high C:M ratios, whilst middling ratios give the sound of wood, and inbetween the two is ceramic. Glassy also suggests a medium attack and release, like a wine glass.
Warmth denotes a lack of harshness, no harsh transients, and not a lot of high end. If there is high end, it's very measured (think of the profile of brown(ian) noise). If there are transients (in the case of, say, a warm drum loop) they are somewhat blurred and smooth, like hot tape.
Similarly glassy brings to mind certain spectra, with a clear but not harsh high end consisting of unusually wide spacing between partials or partial clusters. In FM these sounds can be made with high C:M ratios, whilst middling ratios give the sound of wood, and inbetween the two is ceramic. Glassy also suggests a medium attack and release, like a wine glass.
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- 33337 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Because Ben does things properly. As does Urs.AstralExistence wrote:who knows why the camel audio guys are taking so long with alchemy though.
That's funny, Urs seems to think there are a few more people than that.urs i understand because its just him and howard
my other modular synth is a bugbrand