How many synths do you need?

[martiu]

I love Phase Plant, am actually selling Pigments (which I also love) because Phase Plant covers all my needs and I am just more productive in it, I have so many outstanding free synths I haven't even used some of them yet, and V Collection is there for all my nostalgia needs.

And I still am tempted by Falcon 3.

Hi, I'm Stoop, and I am a GASaholic.

sell all and use only Vital, master it like your life depends on it

[stoopicus]

I do of course have Vital. Everyone should.

I'll stick with Phase Plant. And that's not putting Vital down in any way, Vital is awesome.

[Jac459]

I do of course have Vital. Everyone should.

I'll stick with Phase Plant. And that's not putting Vital down in any way, Vital is awesome.

Phase plant is the king...

Almost uncompromising power with ease of use and very decent UI. Awesome support from kiloheartz, Rich and revolving ecosystem....

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

You need 10 synths EXACTLY :):)Five commercial and Five free:)
Why?
To count them on fingers of left and right arm hehehehe
Cheers:)

[dune_rave]

wrong question.
does not matter how many you need, the one that really matters is what you do with them.

[Negoba]

wrong question.
does not matter how many you need, the one that really matters is what you do with them.

As a synth beginner, I was wondering if one needed different types in order to create fleshed out music on your own.

Having made a few songs now, one clearly could make music with one synth. Even a simpler subtractive synth can do so much. But I could imagine never feeling like I needed more features than Vital has to offer.

I'm now using Vital for anything where I try to make a sound from scratch. I use Podolski for sequenced or arp tracks. Then I use Decent Sampler a fair bit.

I have other free synths but I mainly just use them for preset surfing.

The only plugin I'm considering purchasing at the moment is Stepic.

[liquidsound]

wrong question.
does not matter how many you need, the one that really matters is what you do with them.

As a synth beginner, I was wondering if one needed different types in order to create fleshed out music on your own.

Having made a few songs now, one clearly could make music with one synth. Even a simpler subtractive synth can do so much. But I could imagine never feeling like I needed more features than Vital has to offer.

I'm now using Vital for anything where I try to make a sound from scratch. I use Podolski for sequenced or arp tracks. Then I use Decent Sampler a fair bit.

I have other free synths but I mainly just use them for preset surfing.

The only plugin I'm considering purchasing at the moment is Stepic.

That’s a wise strategy. Add Surge and Dexter if needed, and you will be busy learning and producing for quite sometime.

[Knowerfe]

I don’t see any point in having more than 2 of them

[chk071]

I don’t see any point in having more than 2 of them

Please, Sir, may I lead you to the exit of this website.

[mharrybrewery]

I do of course have Vital. Everyone should.

I'll stick with Phase Plant. And that's not putting Vital down in any way, Vital is awesome.

Phase plant is the king...

Almost uncompromising power with ease of use and very decent UI. Awesome support from kiloheartz, Rich and revolving ecosystem....

Is Phase Plant enough of a modular ecosystem to compete with something with something like VCV? It certainly looks like it can be similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv9dyOaSGJM but the interface seems less intuitive for that kind of application, for my experience level anyway.

[zerocrossing]

I do of course have Vital. Everyone should.

I'll stick with Phase Plant. And that's not putting Vital down in any way, Vital is awesome.

Phase plant is the king...

Almost uncompromising power with ease of use and very decent UI. Awesome support from kiloheartz, Rich and revolving ecosystem....

Is Phase Plant enough of a modular ecosystem to compete with something with something like VCV? It certainly looks like it can be similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv9dyOaSGJM but the interface seems less intuitive for that kind of application, for my experience level anyway.

No. The thing about VCV is that you can put anything anywhere, modulate anything with anything. As flexible as Phase Plant is, it’s fairly limited in where you can put things compared to a modular. Plus, you have VCV’s wide variety of types of modules written by a wide variety of developers. Phase Plant, you have one “analog” oscillator, one sampler module, etc, and that’s that.

[Jac459]

I do of course have Vital. Everyone should.

I'll stick with Phase Plant. And that's not putting Vital down in any way, Vital is awesome.

Phase plant is the king...

Almost uncompromising power with ease of use and very decent UI. Awesome support from kiloheartz, Rich and revolving ecosystem....

Is Phase Plant enough of a modular ecosystem to compete with something with something like VCV? It certainly looks like it can be similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv9dyOaSGJM but the interface seems less intuitive for that kind of application, for my experience level anyway.

No. The thing about VCV is that you can put anything anywhere, modulate anything with anything. As flexible as Phase Plant is, it’s fairly limited in where you can put things compared to a modular. Plus, you have VCV’s wide variety of types of modules written by a wide variety of developers. Phase Plant, you have one “analog” oscillator, one sampler module, etc, and that’s that.

Agreed for the variety of systems/modules, but in terms of modulations I don't remember playing with a modular and thinking "you can't do that in phase plant" a part for polyphonic stuffs, what do you have in mind?
Maybe in terms of audio rate modulations?

Then i would point you to bitwig where your can polyphonicly audiorate modulate everything with everything.

[stoopicus]

I do of course have Vital. Everyone should.

I'll stick with Phase Plant. And that's not putting Vital down in any way, Vital is awesome.

Phase plant is the king...

Almost uncompromising power with ease of use and very decent UI. Awesome support from kiloheartz, Rich and revolving ecosystem....

Is Phase Plant enough of a modular ecosystem to compete with something with something like VCV? It certainly looks like it can be similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv9dyOaSGJM but the interface seems less intuitive for that kind of application, for my experience level anyway.

No. The thing about VCV is that you can put anything anywhere, modulate anything with anything. As flexible as Phase Plant is, it’s fairly limited in where you can put things compared to a modular. Plus, you have VCV’s wide variety of types of modules written by a wide variety of developers. Phase Plant, you have one “analog” oscillator, one sampler module, etc, and that’s that.

Agreed for the variety of systems/modules, but in terms of modulations I don't remember playing with a modular and thinking "you can't do that in phase plant" a part for polyphonic stuffs, what do you have in mind?
Maybe in terms of audio rate modulations?

Then i would point you to bitwig where your can polyphonicly audiorate modulate everything with everything.

yeah. I think this is one where in the literal sense, yes, VCV will technically allow a wider variety of modulation sources/sinks; but in a practical sense, Phase Plant is so flexible here that the missing combos will be rarely things you would usually use. You can get pretty extreme with modulation and routing in Phase Plant. And you can do audio rate modulations in Phase Plant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ3GiwoQGAI

[osiris]

You only need one. The only problem is, you can't get one with everything you need.

[zerocrossing]

I do of course have Vital. Everyone should.

I'll stick with Phase Plant. And that's not putting Vital down in any way, Vital is awesome.

Phase plant is the king...

Almost uncompromising power with ease of use and very decent UI. Awesome support from kiloheartz, Rich and revolving ecosystem....

Is Phase Plant enough of a modular ecosystem to compete with something with something like VCV? It certainly looks like it can be similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv9dyOaSGJM but the interface seems less intuitive for that kind of application, for my experience level anyway.

No. The thing about VCV is that you can put anything anywhere, modulate anything with anything. As flexible as Phase Plant is, it’s fairly limited in where you can put things compared to a modular. Plus, you have VCV’s wide variety of types of modules written by a wide variety of developers. Phase Plant, you have one “analog” oscillator, one sampler module, etc, and that’s that.

Agreed for the variety of systems/modules, but in terms of modulations I don't remember playing with a modular and thinking "you can't do that in phase plant" a part for polyphonic stuffs, what do you have in mind?
Maybe in terms of audio rate modulations?

Then i would point you to bitwig where your can polyphonicly audiorate modulate everything with everything.

I think you just need to try it for yourself, but for instance, you can’t even modulate an analog modeled filter with an oscillator in Phase Plant. You can modulate the ones that will go in the generator lane, but none of them are a decent analog filter. You couldn’t take a CV signal and run it though an effect before it hits its intended mod source. Phase Plant does not have a VCO emulation. VCV Rack Pro currently has a possible 313 different oscillator types.

https://library.vcvrack.com/?query=&bra ... r&license=

I could go on and on, but that’s basically what I’m talking about. Phase Plant is very flexible, but it shouldn’t be confused with a true modular style plugin.