Imagine all the arseholes on the road with jet packs, and consider yourself lucky. We’re going Atwood, baby, not Lucas.vurt wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 5:34 pmmaggie philbin promised me we'd be travelling by jet pack like mandalorians.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 5:30 pmFuture seems pretty good to me.
colour me dissatisfied.
Eventide updates H3000 Factory and Band Delays
- KVRAF
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- 15187 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
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- KVRian
- 1082 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
That's of no relevance really, the effects processing we have ITB has superceded the sound of 1992 believe it or not. In sound quality, flexibility and usability.
If they released the real deal I doubt I would even buy that. It would still be outdated compared to what we have in 2024. The only thing people maybe want is the ago's for vocals. That is what this box was used for any making mono analogue synths sound better convincingly somewhat stereo.
The original factory plug in as far as I can recall was like a Zoom guitar FX box a load of barely usable presets of the flangey, phasey, pitchy, ping pong delay. Lacking in both taste and subtlety and why I never used it.
If they released the real deal I doubt I would even buy that. It would still be outdated compared to what we have in 2024. The only thing people maybe want is the ago's for vocals. That is what this box was used for any making mono analogue synths sound better convincingly somewhat stereo.
The original factory plug in as far as I can recall was like a Zoom guitar FX box a load of barely usable presets of the flangey, phasey, pitchy, ping pong delay. Lacking in both taste and subtlety and why I never used it.
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- KVRian
- 757 posts since 31 Oct, 2020
Unless you used an H3000 D/SE or PCM42 or a Prime Time or an AMS DMX in 1992, because then you can strikethrough sound quality since no plugin comes close to emulate that sound, really, but horses for courses.Synthman2000 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 8:07 am That's of no relevance really, the effects processing we have ITB has superceded the sound of 1992 believe it or not. In sound quality, flexibility and usability.
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- KVRian
- 1134 posts since 6 Mar, 2004
Maybe it's my ears getting old but I can't hear a meaningful difference between these two?bmanic wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 7:29 pm Here is a quick audio demo that I made today just to explore the H3000 as a "mojo" plugin. I inserted it on each individual track then drove each instance quite hard, just barely below audible clipping (though you can hear some "chunk" on the drums).
I've provided 24bit 48kHz .wav files that loop perfectly in case somebody wants to really dig in and listen carefully for the differences. To my ears it's clearly a bit strange and "chunky" sounding.. in a sort of cool way.
Original audio exmple with H3000 as mojo
H3000 mk2 instances removed from every track
Google Drive links, 24bit 48kHz .wav files. Approx 4.4mb each.
- KVRAF
- 23596 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Back in 1992 I was sure in 2024 people would have finally gotten over craving for and demanding stuff they actually have zero need for....
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
- KVRAF
- 23596 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
In the past even the future was better...
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- KVRAF
- 11560 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
- KVRAF
- 10439 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
It's quite subtle indeed. It's mostly a little bit of frequency response change and some strange phase offset in one channel, so it'll sound a little "off" and more smeared than the clip without the H3000 on the tracks.Liero wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:54 amMaybe it's my ears getting old but I can't hear a meaningful difference between these two?bmanic wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 7:29 pm Here is a quick audio demo that I made today just to explore the H3000 as a "mojo" plugin. I inserted it on each individual track then drove each instance quite hard, just barely below audible clipping (though you can hear some "chunk" on the drums).
I've provided 24bit 48kHz .wav files that loop perfectly in case somebody wants to really dig in and listen carefully for the differences. To my ears it's clearly a bit strange and "chunky" sounding.. in a sort of cool way.
Original audio exmple with H3000 as mojo
H3000 mk2 instances removed from every track
Google Drive links, 24bit 48kHz .wav files. Approx 4.4mb each.
It's only 6 tracks though so not all that many instances happening. You'll have a better chance at hearing the difference if you listen with a calibrated/phase aligned speaker set.. if you listen with headphones the difference will be very difficult to notice.
You can hear the phase offset very clearly if you simply add an instance of H3000 without any effects, just input to output and then use it as an AUX. It'll instantly cause big phase cancellations with the original track and that phase offset is completely dependent on the sampling rate. The above project was rendered from 96kHz so the offset is smaller than it would have been at 48 or 44.1
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- KVRAF
- 23596 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
It makes a big difference for the bassline for sure...
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- KVRAF
- 11560 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Just messing around with the default settings here and there's clearly an almost full dB volume drop-off. Seems like adding about 0.8 on the output will compensate it.