Nope, I don't understand what you're saying! But hard bass sounds interesting!machinesworking wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:20 pmOne of the things I keep on thinking about is solutions like Komplete Kontrol, while far from perfect the idea is to take your entire library and make all presets sortable, so you can just treat everything you own like a workstation synth. It's a great idea no matter how mediocrely it's implemented. It's how I treat 99% of the synths I own, I have a few hardware and software synths I always turn to, then I treat the rest like a workstation. It takes choice paralysis off the table really.mitchiemasha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:48 pmThis kind of sums it up. Go ahead buy more, keep on buying until you own every last 1 that exists.
Now if NI would get off their ass and clean up their selection stupidity, 350 choices for hard bass with no ability to select another descriptive term isn't that helpful.
I bought too many soft synths
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Komplete Kontrol takes all your softsynths and in theory filters them down, but the filters are too little if you own a good amount of soft synths.mitchiemasha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:26 pmNope, I don't understand what you're saying! But hard bass sounds interesting!machinesworking wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:20 pmOne of the things I keep on thinking about is solutions like Komplete Kontrol, while far from perfect the idea is to take your entire library and make all presets sortable, so you can just treat everything you own like a workstation synth. It's a great idea no matter how mediocrely it's implemented. It's how I treat 99% of the synths I own, I have a few hardware and software synths I always turn to, then I treat the rest like a workstation. It takes choice paralysis off the table really.mitchiemasha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:48 pmThis kind of sums it up. Go ahead buy more, keep on buying until you own every last 1 that exists.
Now if NI would get off their ass and clean up their selection stupidity, 350 choices for hard bass with no ability to select another descriptive term isn't that helpful.
Hard Bass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu24_PURGdQ
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KK won't be taking any of my softsynths, the hole idea makes me shiver! i'll take a lot more Hard Bass though, we call it Donk! making up a large % of the bounce scenemachinesworking wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:33 pmKomplete Kontrol takes all your softsynths and in theory filters them down, but the filters are too little if you own a good amount of soft synths.mitchiemasha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:26 pmNope, I don't understand what you're saying! But hard bass sounds interesting!machinesworking wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:20 pmOne of the things I keep on thinking about is solutions like Komplete Kontrol, while far from perfect the idea is to take your entire library and make all presets sortable, so you can just treat everything you own like a workstation synth. It's a great idea no matter how mediocrely it's implemented. It's how I treat 99% of the synths I own, I have a few hardware and software synths I always turn to, then I treat the rest like a workstation. It takes choice paralysis off the table really.mitchiemasha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:48 pmThis kind of sums it up. Go ahead buy more, keep on buying until you own every last 1 that exists.
Now if NI would get off their ass and clean up their selection stupidity, 350 choices for hard bass with no ability to select another descriptive term isn't that helpful.
Hard Bass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu24_PURGdQ
Click for music links... Eurotrash!
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I'm sure those synths are great, but I can't afford them anyway. It just takes a little too long to work with those one size fits all vst's and I'm not sure that's for me, that's the main reason I don't use Zebra.Jac459 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:13 am
That's the moment where I need to point you towards avenger 2 and spire, 2 sublime sounding softsynths.
But I clearly understand your point.
I stayed a long time within reason studios ecosystem young with their "true to life" synths emulation.
Then I discovered Bitwig. And I decided against hardware and hardware emulation, but it is just my tastes, I fully understand that your could feel opposite.
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- 5130 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
"Too many soft synths".
That's a crazy variable
That's a crazy variable
MuLab of course
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- 35302 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
There's another two "too many" in my shopping basket right now ...
I've also bought too many hardware synths
I've also bought too many hardware synths
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Mostly, PP is hugely inefficient and the results generally underwhelm, because it doesn't sound good enough. Also, if you deconstruct most presets, you see massive over-complication and needless redundancy. Any useful patch I've found, I've been able to reduce to at least half the number of modules without noticeably affecting the output sound. People seem to just keep adding shit to it until they get what they want but they never go back and tidy up the mess they've made. It's pretty much the last synth I own that I'd think about firing up. OTOH, I use the kHs effects quite regularly because they are simple and easy.
And what, exactly would those restrictions be? I can only think it's down to your lack of imagination and/or skill.gaggle of hermits wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:01 amthe j6 has excuses as it's based on analogue circuitry but I can see no reason for accepting its restrictions in the software age.
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Oh for f**ks sake. Can't you just AI the damn thing???
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I don't disagree.BONES wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:14 amMostly, PP is hugely inefficient and the results generally underwhelm, because it doesn't sound good enough. Also, if you deconstruct most presets, you see massive over-complication and needless redundancy. Any useful patch I've found, I've been able to reduce to at least half the number of modules without noticeably affecting the output sound. People seem to just keep adding shit to it until they get what they want but they never go back and tidy up the mess they've made. It's pretty much the last synth I own that I'd think about firing up. OTOH, I use the kHs effects quite regularly because they are simple and easy.And what, exactly would those restrictions be? I can only think it's down to your lack of imagination and/or skill.gaggle of hermits wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:01 amthe j6 has excuses as it's based on analogue circuitry but I can see no reason for accepting its restrictions in the software age.
Phase Plants presets are indeed far far from my favourites.
Also phase plant does sound thinner that say Spire or Avenger 2 (and I have no idea why, maybe it is just an impression due to the presets).
BUT
Phase plant is not to be used to tweak presets. Phase plant really shines in its easiness to put on complex sounds from scratch and in particular audio rates modulations (so you have an unmatched control over FM and RM, AM) and per voice effects, again in an hard to beat easiness.
Finally, it's routing options are insane and again super intuitive.
As per the sound quality, I do often end up with a bit more EQ or putting a sub layer with a sine in order to increase the low end and it is all fixed.
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Analog Insanity!
MuLab of course
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DJ Blattyman is my personal favorite, just wish his country wasn't f8cking up Ukraine, but I'm sure he's not happy about it either.mitchiemasha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:13 pm i'll take a lot more Hard Bass though, we call it Donk! making up a large % of the bounce scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rPGfJfneHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOlUU8l8j5M