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We have another new TSL product:



Grand Piano –Concert Orchestra– 1.1 GB


With this sample library a vision became reality: A very dynamic playable grand piano, useful for many musical styles.

We decided to choose the Schimmel CO256 for this sampling project. It's an exceptional instrument with a unique timbre character, somewhere between a Steinway and a Boesendorfer. This grand piano comes with an exciting powerful bass range and, thanks to the built-in “bell”, a high range with a more shiny bright tone compared to other grand pianos.

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The result is a 1.1 GB sized sampled Stereo Grand Piano in the ws-engine format.

We sampled all 88 keys in the 4 dynamics ff, mf, p, staccato. The dynamics samples can be used as single velocity timbres too by using the sampleplayer's filters for further sound design. The grand piano was recorded in true stereo (90° 2-channel mic setting), room microphone positioning, distance to instrument about 2 meters.

The library provides full duration of the 88 tones (original note length considering the complete real decay time).

Usually the dynamics are assigned as velocity switch, but can be used for individual layer slots too. The same handling is recommended for the left and right channels. To make this instrument really custom for your individual songs and personal playing style you can load each dynamic and stereo channel separately:

- fortissimo ff left channel
- fortissimo ff right channel
- mezzoforte mf left channel
- mezzoforte mf right channel
- piano p left channel
- piano p right channel
- staccato left channel
- staccato right channel

Additionally the library content includes a series of really unusual prepared piano special effects. We got it extra metal strips, chains, rubber inside to provide totally dramatic and weird tones. Then we did hit the keys, scraped the strings, bowed and striked them with several tools. The result is a 200 MB collection of extreme and amazing sounds indeed. Some are one shot and sound effects, others are even multisamples to play them all over the keyboard. Many of them are stereo too. The tone length varies from pretty short to ultra long up to 30 seconds and longer. Those sounds are definitely “the” cliffhanger special effects, horrible movie-alike XXL-scenes and doubtlessly unusual allover the keyboard playable Grand Piano variations even with “sinking ship” character and string resonances. A must have when it comes to special sound effects which can only created with acoustic instruments (TSL Prepared Piano is separately available too, retail price Euro 19.00.).

This project was realized in cooperation with the grand piano manufacturer Schimmel himself. Recorded in a special designed studio location in Germany skilled piano player Ratko Delorko helped us as creative consultant to capture the mighty sound of this exceptional instrument. Before the recordings Detlev Haenseler tuned it very carefully, and pianist Klaus Schroen hit the keys to get us the instrument timbres in the requested dynamics best possible. The entire project was supported by Nikolaus Schimmel and Edith Hollenstein, and at this point I want to thank them a lot for their kind help to make everything possible.

Data format: ws-engine
Retail price: Euro 79.00, US$ 99.00
Release date: Available

TSW Pro customers are qualified for special prices for all our ws-engine products: 20% discount on above mentioned price.

Best regards

Klaus P. Rausch
http://www.backintimerecords.de
-Sound Research & Development-

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Are there demo mp3's?

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mp3 audio tracks are in work.

Cheers

harryson


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The bigger piano sets that I've tried in WusikStation 3 have been a bit of a bummer as far as performance goes. There was a particular problem with the sustain pedal which was fixed thankfully, but I generally find that my computer can't cope with an instrument of such size played the way a piano is generally played.

How are you guys finding this instrument now that you've put it together. Does it play well? How did you cope with the 16 max polyphony on each layer?

I know in SampleTank I set the piano polyphony to 64 notes to ensure that I don't hit max polyphony and I would have thought splitting the soundset across the layers in WusikStation would only lessen this problem rather than remove it.

For me the thing is too expensive given that I have some really nice piano sets already, but I'm more interested in how to overcame the limitations of WEngine to create it and how successful the experience ended up being?

Regards
Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.

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You're absolutely right: the ws-engine isn't the perfect piano sampleplayer.

But as always we have a concept behind our product. In this case it's a system of building blocks, where you can customize your idea of the Grand Piano. My personal recommendation is to use the ManyMapper in addition. As our GP considers all 88 notes you can make several mapping variations by using just 30-50 single samples and believe me, each mapping will get you a new kind of GP. It's because each note sounds a bit different compared to the neighbour note. So if you're mapping a C1, D#1, F1, G#1, B1 etc. it will sound different compared to the mapping C#1, E1, F#1, A#1, C2 etc. So you have way more chances to create your personal favourite than with a regular ready-to-use Grand Piano sample library.

To increase the limited polyphony you can spread the sample types into several ws-engine instances (using different MIDI Channels).

And finally we already converted the GP into several other formats. Harry did it and Julia is currently uploading them. As soon as they're uploaded and tested Harry will make the info posting with the list of formats. So if you buy it, you can get it in those formats without any extra fee.

Best regards

Klaus
http://www.backintimerecords.de
-Sound Research & Development-

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There's some interesting ideas there Klaus - it never occurred to me to spread an instance over multiple instances like that. If the MP add-on for Wusik ever becomes a reality you could possibly have an instance of the MP dedicated to it.

It seems like a bit of work though rather than an "out-of-the-box" soundset.

Given the problems I've had with the performance of any significant size piano soundset for WS, I might go back and have a look what happens if I break it up into separate sets and spread it across multiple instances.

Regards,
Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.

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Since Wusik now supports stereo snd files, is there any chance that these layers will be combined into stereo layers?

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Yes. At this moment the ws-engine format samples are provided as L and R (for left and right channels) data. As far as I know wusik.com offers a Stereo-data utility, where those files will be locked together. I never tried this utility though, but I heard that it works.

Cheers

harryson

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