He was saying something?!?elxicano wrote:I still don't know what was said in the post with the pic of the girls... I kept getting distracted.
I hate fancy GUIs
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- Banned
- 2623 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from in ur head pullin cablez out [boston, ma]
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- KVRian
- 774 posts since 1 Oct, 2006
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- KVRian
- 509 posts since 26 Oct, 2006 from Tokyo
Which synth is this?MaxSynths wrote:
(and why are there no knobs at the places where they are supposed to be?!)
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- KVRAF
- 6579 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey
So how do you rate the following GUI, is it simple yet functional enough ?tattiemannie wrote:Yuck! ... gimme a rotten plank of wood ripped from an old shed, with a few knobs stuck on with chewing gum anyday!
If all GUIs were like synthedit default blue, we would be free of distraction and use our ears to determine whether a vst was any good or not!
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- KVRian
- 830 posts since 9 Aug, 2004 from Berlin
Nice GUI.kv331 wrote:
Simple and effective.
Not sure I would date it if it turned into a girl though...
But as a synth it looks nice : clear, everything in its right place, and last but no least, not much contrast.
Contrast can make a UI overly flashy and hard to read.
Maybe it could benefit from a bit more color? but I can't tell where...
maybe the selected items in lists?
Or making left and top main zones very lightly colored (blue-ish greys)?
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- KVRian
- 756 posts since 21 Sep, 2006 from Kranj, Slovenia
I see four tweakable things. They must be ADSR.sys2074 wrote:Which synth is this?MaxSynths wrote:
(and why are there no knobs at the places where they are supposed to be?!)
So where do I plug in my mono unbalanced input?
- KVRian
- 1433 posts since 29 Jan, 2008 from Arboretum Avenue
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- KVRAF
- 2323 posts since 4 Mar, 2004 from Portugal (Lagos)
A good GUI, IMO, doesn't have to look like hardware. This one doesn't, still it's a 'fancy' one:
I think it's a very good GUI because everything is well placed, and it's very easy to 'read' and figure out. It's completly 'idiot proof' .
Just an example.
I think it's a very good GUI because everything is well placed, and it's very easy to 'read' and figure out. It's completly 'idiot proof' .
Just an example.
Eventually something intelligent will appear written here. Watch this space.
- u-he
- 28065 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
It's haunting... it's been inflationary displayed anywhere I go...kv331 wrote:So how do you rate the following GUI, is it simple yet functional enough ?
On a serious note, I'd make it a bit bigger squeeze all oscs and filters on a single page. Too many tabs are a *massive* mistake (no pun intended) IMHO, no matter how tidy the single tab would be.
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Generally speaking and back on topic, one has to distinguish *style* and *usability*. Both can get in the way of each other. One similarly has to distinguish first impression from routine use. Again both can get in the way of each other.
The ideal gui looks eye catching enough to generate some sales while at the same time it is rewarding enough to keep the musician happy in the months thereafter. This also depends on the actual quality of the plugin of course, but the interface plays a big role in this.
What I mean with this is, some uis may be very easy to use at the beginning ("everything is explained nicely") but then all the "ease" gets on the users nerves once I sussed out how the damn thing works. In that case a slightly steeper learning curve might lead to a ui that can be operated faster and more intutive in the long term. My favourite example being Ensoniq samplers which were tedious to use as a beginner, but once one knew the Mode->Level-> Section sequence of buttons they were as quickly operated as anything.
Urs
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
The contrast on the large empty blocks of gray and white work the eyes needlessly,Mokafix wrote:Nice GUI.kv331 wrote:
Simple and effective.
Not sure I would date it if it turned into a girl though...
But as a synth it looks nice : clear, everything in its right place, and last but no least, not much contrast.
Contrast can make a UI overly flashy and hard to read.
Maybe it could benefit from a bit more color? but I can't tell where...
maybe the selected items in lists?
Or making left and top main zones very lightly colored (blue-ish greys)?
and then a lack of contrast on the light gray text against darker gray background,
again makes the eyes to work too hard. The layout may be OK, but I would not consider it
for purchase, based on current visual ergonomics.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 6579 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey
Great feedback, thank you! So help us design our next skin (just give us ideas I mean for the coloring) and win a free license from usglokraw wrote: The contrast on the large empty blocks of gray and white work the eyes needlessly,
and then a lack of contrast on the light gray text against darker gray background,
again makes the eyes to work too hard. The layout may be OK, but I would not consider it
for purchase, based on current visual ergonomics.
Cheers
For those of you who havent heard yet: SynthMaster 2.0 comes with a "Skin/Interface Editor" with which users can customize the GUI as they wish.
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- KVRist
- 424 posts since 3 Apr, 2009 from Germany
I Think guis should be kind of fancy. Couse i have to look at them for long times. I have to work with them so why not making the working more fun and compfotable by looking at something "cool". If i wan't to see boring greyness, i would't do music. Music is colourfull! (i think)
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- KVRian
- 830 posts since 9 Aug, 2004 from Berlin
"Music is colorful" :MA-Simon wrote:I Think guis should be kind of fancy. Couse i have to look at them for long times. I have to work with them so why not making the working more fun and compfotable by looking at something "cool". If i wan't to see boring greyness, i would't do music. Music is colourfull! (i think)
as you go in that direction and as it seems this thread van be used to show personal stuff, here is some GUIs I did lately for upcoming products.
I thought that when a plugin is simple enough, why not make it look really different.
Then to me the coolest visuals related to music being LP/CD covers, adn some of the best covers being from bluenote records, i took inspiration there to make some really fancy UIs :
In both UIs, when you turn/move a knob/switch, it moves in any image where it is displayed.
Those are examples of very simple plugins that have few controls and simple workflow; No much need to guide the user.
It makes it pleasant to use to me, though I know these UIs have a strong character and might not please anyone.