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PhilAiken · Post by **PhilAiken** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:30 pm

Muse people -
Any info on when the SSD option will be available, and how much it will cost?

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:41 pm

I think I could do my own SSD upgrade. thing is Muse is talking about I 256Gb SSD. I'm thinking at least two, using a port multiplier, with the ability to add 2 or 3 more. I don't think that will fit internally, in place of where the drive sits. Muse might be thinking of using SSD for realtime and the existing drive for storage, though I don't know how they'll do that. I was thinking of leavimg the existing drive in to use as storage, port it out the back with another port on the back connected to where the existing drive used to go. It would be better if I could use the existing MOBO Port on the back but I don't know that it's setup to be used for much of anything.

nathankingcole · Post by **nathankingcole** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:10 am

Will this be an option on the upgrade from Rev C to Receptor 2 Pro?

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:43 pm

No the 2 Pro and 2 Pro Max get upgraded to regular SATA drives. the SSD was mentioned in earlier threads but no details. Now that Muse has said the SSD will be an option at AES09, I have no ideal how they plan on implementing them.

Bryan@MuseResearch · Post by **Bryan@MuseResearch** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:19 am

PhilAiken wrote:Muse people -
Any info on when the SSD option will be available, and how much it will cost?

Hi Phil

We did indeed show an SSD drive in a Receptor 2 PRO at AES. We are thinking that we will offer both a 128GB version and a 256GB version.

The cost on the drives is expensive, period. Currently running about $4 a gigabyte, and the cost is expected to come down about 25% per year.

Admittedly, this technology isn't for everyone, but if you are looking for max polyphony and maximum resistance to shock and vibration, then it is extremely cool technology.

We're hoping that 512GB technology comes out early next year, but this stuff is really pushing the envelope right now.

As for pricing, the prices we announced at the show were $499 retail for a 128GB drive, and $999 for a 256GB drive. Both mechanisms come with mounting brackets and a 3-year warranty. Like I said, they definitely aren't for everyone, but we did want to offer it to those customers who really require what this kind of technology can provide.

Cheers

Groovology

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:12 am

Those prices seem very high. Whay can't the less expensive drives be used?

richwhite9 · Post by **richwhite9** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:13 pm

How much cheaper can you get them Throbert?

Tiger Direct and NewEgg have the 256GB SSDs at around $700.00 install it yourself. The $999 is retail. Sweetwater offers around a 15% discount off retail on Receptor 2 putting the net about $850.

Ahem...about the beta testing of 1.8 on Rev Cs?

Bryan@MuseResearch · Post by **Bryan@MuseResearch** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:34 pm

Throbert wrote:Those prices seem very high. Whay can't the less expensive drives be used?

There are actually many grades of SSDs out there. Just like memory, they are graded on speed and more importantly, lifetime. You can get very cheap "EE-PC" flash hard drives for a couple hundred bucks. They might actually be slower than a regular hard drive, but they would at least have no moving parts and you could drive a truck over them and they'd still work.

We are only spec'ing in high performance drives for the Receptor 2, and the commercial and not military grade drives. There is a whole class of drives for military use that are 3 to 4 times more expensive than what we are offering!

And you are right, Throbert, you can purchase your own at New Egg or Tiger Direct or Frys or whatever, but please don't call us if you brick your drive while cloning it or can't get it to work... DIY also means you're on your own. I'm nottrying to be a jerk (my wife would say that comes naturally) but if you want to make modifications to your Receptor, you can of course do that, but please don't expect warranty support for any experiments that go south, okay?

Groovology

PhilAiken · Post by **PhilAiken** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:13 pm

Available now?

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:39 pm

groovology wrote:
And you are right, Throbert, you can purchase your own at New Egg or Tiger Direct or Frys or whatever, but please don't call us if you brick your drive while cloning it or can't get it to work... DIY also means you're on your own. I'm nottrying to be a jerk (my wife would say that comes naturally) but if you want to make modifications to your Receptor, you can of course do that, but please don't expect warranty support for any experiments that go south, okay?

Groovology

Yea, I know I'm on my own. I can't see how I would hose it makeing a back up. I just like the idea of being able to add as I need more. I could get it all in probably, if I used the space to the right of the MOBO but I think that would cause ventalation issues. Better off doing it external.

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:42 pm

richwhite9 wrote:How much cheaper can you get them Throbert?

check www.directron.com

SurfacePatterns · Post by **SurfacePatterns** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:38 pm

groovology wrote:DIY also means you're on your own. I'm nottrying to be a jerk (my wife would say that comes naturally) but if you want to make modifications to your Receptor, you can of course do that, but please don't expect warranty support for any experiments that go south, okay?

This is yet another problem that could be solved with ISO install images. Currently, if a Receptor user installs a new hard drive on the Receptor, then (s)he has a couple options:

1.) Send the Receptor to Muse Research to get the OS installed (is this actually an option?).
2.) Attempt to copy all of the data on the old hard drive to the new hard drive, which can get problematic and complicated when you get into master boot record sectors.

With an ISO install image, the user could simply install the operating system on the new hard drive.

So, the ISO install image could solve other problems besides allowing Rev. C Receptor users to upgrade to the 1.8 OS, which is being discussed in this thread.

PhilMuller · Post by **PhilMuller** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:54 am

Just the thought of having a disk that could cut my load time in half, has me jumping for joy!

My problem now is: I am using about 750GB of my 1TB drive! ...And I don't really have a massive sample library like some people.

I guess I will have to wait for a 1TB SSD.

Throbert · Post by **Throbert** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:14 am

If you can find a preconfigurable plug n play port multiplier and a little bit of modding you'd be set

Bryan@MuseResearch · Post by **Bryan@MuseResearch** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:23 am

PhilMuller wrote:Just the thought of having a disk that could cut my load time in half, has me jumping for joy!

My problem now is: I am using about 750GB of my 1TB drive! ...And I don't really have a massive sample library like some people.

I guess I will have to wait for a 1TB SSD.

I've heard 512GB in the next 3 months, so the trend is in the right direction!

Bryan

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