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Transient Shapers (you gotta love'em!)

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Effects discussion

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3ee
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2861 posts since 8 Mar, 2006

Postby 3ee; Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:52 pm Transient Shapers (you gotta love'em!)

So, I bought the NI Transient Master plug the other day from the market place and so far, I really like it!

Never payed much attention to transient shapers as I thought I can get the punchy snap by tricking some compressors but apparently, practical use tells me that these tools are something else altogether!

My drums will never lack punch/snap again! 8)

Have a listen to some fresh samples I've made using a "mysterious" Reaktor synth. :hihi:

Without:
https://www.box.com/s/idbwkomt9zzs9q1qoa5a

With NI Transient Master on every channel (no extra procession, not even bus compression):
https://www.box.com/s/4l2duvyzhjwecltouwp0

7 instances of transient master on every sample, barely takes up any CPU and sound lovely! :love:
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What was your 1st experiences with transient shaping plugs? :)

Cheers"
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V0RT3X
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4344 posts since 3 Jul, 2012

Postby V0RT3X; Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:13 pm

I was playing with Fxpansion Geist for the first time, and started using the built in transient shaper.

So much fun! Also very essential for certain sounds.
Best Advice I ever got : "Having the best tools and technical knowledge isn't gonna do much for you if you don't understand how to make good music."
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cryophonik
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4065 posts since 6 Sep, 2006, from Elk Grove, CA

Postby cryophonik; Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:30 pm

I first started really getting into using transient shapers when Cakewalk bundled the TS64 with Sonar - I used it everywhere. Unfortunately, it only works with Sonar, so I had to buy another one for my other DAWs and, before I knew it, I found some great deals and had gone a bit nuts buying the SPL, Sonnox, NI, and Flux (freebie) transient shapers. Yeah, way more than I need, but I'm pretty fascinated by them. The Sonnox one is probably my favorite, but the SPL and NI ones are close seconds. For a freebie, the Flux Bittersweet is really nice, too.
bbaggins
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573 posts since 25 Sep, 2010

Postby bbaggins; Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:38 pm

The Sonalksis transient shaper that's included with Superior Drummer is indispensable. Too bad it's not a separate plugin, because I'd use it on other things if I could. I haven't found anything else (anything affordable, that is) that's as good.

Waves' TransX is a unique variation on the theme that's worth a look, although 90% of the time when I think it would be just the ticket it turns out not to be. Mostly I use it for cutting transients rather than boosting.
B.A.Tech.
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565 posts since 20 Jun, 2012

Postby B.A.Tech.; Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:05 pm

My first and last transient designer/shaper plugin is Transient Monster from Stillwell.
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osiris
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7265 posts since 20 Nov, 2003, from Lost and Spaced

Postby osiris; Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:12 pm

The one called Transient from the KVR Challenge is really good.
TheoM
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19214 posts since 4 Sep, 2001, from Melbourne Australia

Postby TheoM; Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:14 pm

cryophonik wrote:I first started really getting into using transient shapers when Cakewalk bundled the TS64 with Sonar - I used it everywhere. Unfortunately, it only works with Sonar, so I had to buy another one for my other DAWs and, before I knew it, I found some great deals and had gone a bit nuts buying the SPL, Sonnox, NI, and Flux (freebie) transient shapers. Yeah, way more than I need, but I'm pretty fascinated by them. The Sonnox one is probably my favorite, but the SPL and NI ones are close seconds. For a freebie, the Flux Bittersweet is really nice, too.


The sonnox one is actually very good on the attack cycle, it has a smooth sound.. but it doesn't have any release control, and that make it incomplete (and very expensive)
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tremolounge
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142 posts since 6 Mar, 2004, from Massachusetts

Postby tremolounge; Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:23 pm

I like the Schaack Audio Transient Shaper a lot. Hasn't been updated for a couple years, but it still does a great job (and it's 64-bit in Mac AU and Windows VST).

http://www.schaack-audio.com/home.html
SadPuppyBlues
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488 posts since 9 Jul, 2008

Postby SadPuppyBlues; Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:38 pm

I'm the transient shaper!
You gotta love me!

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cryophonik
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4065 posts since 6 Sep, 2006, from Elk Grove, CA

Postby cryophonik; Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:43 pm

TheoM wrote:The sonnox one is actually very good on the attack cycle, it has a smooth sound.. but it doesn't have any release control, and that make it incomplete (and very expensive)


Well, true that it doesn't have a proper release control. Transmod is very focused on transients, rather than the body/tail of a sample. But, you can get a similar effect as, say the SPL, by using a negative ratio to de-emphasize the attack, and cranking up the overshoot, rise time, and/or recovery (depending on the sample). Still, not as effective as having separate attack and sustain adjustments (e.g., like the SPL's), but flexible in its own way.
schnapsglas
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996 posts since 14 Jun, 2012, from Toronto, Canada

Postby schnapsglas; Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:49 pm

Transient shaper is something people ought to use more often, it really saves lives! Also M/S processing, frequency analyzer, Maxxbass-like plugins, highpass plugin (cleansweep...) I couldn't live without them.

I suppose the "cheapest" plugin that can compare with the SPL original is the DCAM one? Other than the free Bittersweet...
sauli
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404 posts since 22 Jun, 2007

Postby sauli; Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:52 pm

Is there a transient shaper with lookahead and (meta?)envelope? I'd really like to have something that doesn't click and pop with extreme settings in extreme cases, like for example -100% attack + 100% release.
gmitch
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200 posts since 14 Sep, 2007

Postby gmitch; Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:55 pm

osiris wrote:The one called Transient from the KVR Challenge is really good.



YEP!!!
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risome
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1771 posts since 30 Oct, 2006, from Australia, NSW

Postby risome; Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:13 pm

You can get Trans control for free atm from Plugin Mix via a FB like
www.voltagedisciple.com
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risome
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1771 posts since 30 Oct, 2006, from Australia, NSW

Postby risome; Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:16 pm

www.voltagedisciple.com
Patches for ACE,PREDATOR,SYNPLANT,SUB BOOM BASS,PUNCH
AALTO,CIRCLE,BLADE and Ableton LIVE Packs
http://syikom.wordpress.com/ my blog
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