About clipping
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 11 Feb, 2013
Hello there. So, I have a lot of places in my composition, when the volume goes over 0db. In my opinion, it's because of frequencies' clashing. I trying to use equalizer, but sounds becomes less brighter or just ruines. Am I need to mess with EQ some more time or just put a limiter on master section (as I did with my previous tracks, but I want to become more professional, and I think just putting a limiter hides the problem, but not solves it)?
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- KVRAF
- 35191 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
- KVRAF
- 15281 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
What he said ^.
If you then find the volume to be too soft, you need a limiter. All commercially published tracks are compressed & limited to smithereens in the mastering process. Do not compare the volume of your unmastered tracks to commercial releases. Just turn down the master fader of your DAW and turn up the volume of the monitors.
If you then find the volume to be too soft, you need a limiter. All commercially published tracks are compressed & limited to smithereens in the mastering process. Do not compare the volume of your unmastered tracks to commercial releases. Just turn down the master fader of your DAW and turn up the volume of the monitors.
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- KVRer
- 21 posts since 2 Oct, 2011
Do not turn the master fader down. That should always be at 0dBFS. Grab all of your tracks at once and turn them down. That way it preserves your mix, and gets rid of the master track going over.
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- KVRian
- 656 posts since 25 Sep, 2010
No need to turn down every track (although if you'd been careful with their levels you wouldn't have this problem) - just turn down the Trim/Gain on your master bus, or the Input Level fader on your limiter, and then let the limiter make up the difference.
The reason you can get away with this is that most DAWs work with floating-point data internally, so going over 0db prior to the final output does not cause any problems. You just have to make sure the output of the final limiter is < 0db, and that the peaks going INTO the limiter are no more than -3db (-6db to -12db is better) so that the limiter has some headroom to work with.
The reason you can get away with this is that most DAWs work with floating-point data internally, so going over 0db prior to the final output does not cause any problems. You just have to make sure the output of the final limiter is < 0db, and that the peaks going INTO the limiter are no more than -3db (-6db to -12db is better) so that the limiter has some headroom to work with.
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- KVRian
- 1256 posts since 15 Mar, 2007 from Yorkshire, England
One idea is to side chain a compressor on the less important track so it ducks when the other plays. At any one time there should be one main instrument that the audience is listening to (excluding the general drum rythm). If you consider that and go through your track determining at each point which instrument it is then you can duck or automate the volumes of the others that clash.
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- KVRian
- 1379 posts since 27 Nov, 2008 from uk
This!bbell wrote:Do not turn the master fader down. That should always be at 0dBFS. Grab all of your tracks at once and turn them down. That way it preserves your mix, and gets rid of the master track going over.
Moreover, learn to gain stage correctly from the start.
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- KVRist
- 126 posts since 2 May, 2005 from SC
Keep your master fader at 0. How would you monitor if you didn't? Turn down all your tracks instead. Yes most DAWs work with floating-point data internally, but some plugins don't work as well when pushed. In fact most effect plugins were better with lower inputs. Some of these plugins introduce distortion maybe not heard until limited.
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 14 Feb, 2013
like everyone has said, the easiest way is to turn each part down
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 11 Feb, 2013
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- KVRAF
- 21348 posts since 26 Jul, 2005 from Gone
+1000000000thecontrolcentre wrote:Turn the main volume fader down.
Far too often people think they need to redline everything so they can be part of the loudness war
- KVRAF
- 15281 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Maybe that's the proper way, but do that with your next track. Just turning down the master fader will give the same result, and won't mess with your current balance & volume automation curves.bbell wrote:Do not turn the master fader down. That should always be at 0dBFS. Grab all of your tracks at once and turn them down. That way it preserves your mix, and gets rid of the master track going over.
It only matters if you have effects on the master bus post-fader that depend on the incoming volume (dynamics effects with a threshold)
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- KVRian
- 1384 posts since 12 Oct, 2012
What if you are about to send a demo to a label? Wouldnt you want your track to be as loud as possible?robojam wrote:+1000000000thecontrolcentre wrote:Turn the main volume fader down.
Far too often people think they need to redline everything so they can be part of the loudness war